Politics: J'accuse! - Page 319

sgtclub · 05-17-2004, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
That is so harsh. I don't think she is ugly like her father. Her father is ugly. She is attractive. Not beautiful, but really, how many women are beautiful?

Yea, but you have to credit Kerry. He has bagged some big game.

Tyrone Slothrop · 05-17-2004, 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
This is a joke, right?

No. I wasn't kidding when I asked club the same question a week ago (+/-). The only source he cited was one of Chalabi's guys. And he pointed to KPMG, which was retained by Chalabi to do so some kind of investigation. So far as I know, no one other than Chalabi's people have seen any proof of this scandal. If you know something more, I'd like to see it.

Not Me · 05-17-2004, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Get a happy ending with that?

S_A_M

Yes, very. My skin feels and looks great. I am also using my new all mineral make-up that I love, love, love. Looks fabulous!

Tyrone Slothrop · 05-17-2004, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
When you have a decent standard of living and freedom, you are less likely to want to fly airplanes into buildings.

While this is an attractive theory, since it means that all we have to win the war on terrorism is to figure out how to bring economic growth to areas of the world that have so far missed out on the industrial revolution, which is surely a piece of cake, it doesn't seem to be right. Al Qaeda is recruiting people from relatively middle-class backgrounds, not the poor. There's surely a mix, but a lot of the 9/11 21 were fairly well off. OBL, of course, was no pauper.

But your economic determinism is amusingly Marxist.

Not Me · 05-17-2004, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Yea, but you have to credit Kerry. He has bagged some big game.

Bagged some big game? If I were sitting next to you right now, I would smack you upside your head.

bilmore · 05-17-2004, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
I hope you're right (but that Bush still loses in November).

I hope that's true. The AOBB (any outcome but Bush) people dismay me to no end. I truly believe that much of what I read these days is written by people who would rather we lose the war, as long as it results in Bush's loss.

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I'm not at all sure that a truly democratic Iraq would be much friendlier (in principle) to U.S./Western interests than was Saddam.

I'm for whatever force will grow a stable middle class in the middle east. At this point, I think democracy is the only force that will do so. The current forces - Islam, and despotism - only polarize economics.

sgtclub · 05-17-2004, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
Bagged some big game? If I were sitting next to you right now, I would smack you upside your head.

What else would you call it? And being such a feminist and all, am I allowed to (bitch) slap you back?

SlaveNoMore · 05-17-2004, 05:43 PM

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Tyrone Slothrop
Non-Chalabi-sourced cite, please.

When Annan et al stop "pulling a Clinton" and start handing over some documents to Volcker's crew, I'm sure there will be plenty.

SlaveNoMore · 05-17-2004, 05:44 PM

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sgtclub
What else would you call it? And being such a feminist and all, am I allowed to (bitch) slap you back?

Senator groupie?

Not Me · 05-17-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
What else would you call it?

How about had sex with some famous and/or attractive women?

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And being such a feminist and all, am I allowed to (bitch) slap you back?

IRL, I would not smack you upside your head. I meant that in the figurative sense. If you said that in front of me IRL, I would just roll my eyes and walk away from you and think less of you as a person.

Not Me · 05-17-2004, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
While this is an attractive theory, since it means that all we have to win the war on terrorism is to figure out how to bring economic growth to areas of the world that have so far missed out on the industrial revolution, which is surely a piece of cake, it doesn't seem to be right. Al Qaeda is recruiting people from relatively middle-class backgrounds, not the poor. There's surely a mix, but a lot of the 9/11 21 were fairly well off. OBL, of course, was no pauper.

I agree that my prior post was a bit of an oversimplification in that I neglected to mention the influence that Arab culture and islam has on terrorism. The Arabs are a barbaric and primitive people and Islam is a violent and primitive religion. Add that into the mix of oppressive, totalitarian regimes coupled with limited economic opportunities for the masses and the concentration of wealth in the hands of the few and you've got a recipe for terrorism.

Tyrone Slothrop · 05-17-2004, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
When Annan et al stop "pulling a Clinton" and start handing over some documents to Volcker's crew, I'm sure there will be plenty.

Thank you for confirming that there are no non-Chalabi-sourced documents. When confronted with this inconvenient fact, club and Not Me just went silent.

Not Me · 05-17-2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Thank you for confirming that there are no non-Chalabi-sourced documents. When confronted with this inconvenient fact, club and Not Me just went silent.

That is a joke, right?

Tyrone Slothrop · 05-17-2004, 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by Not Me
That is a joke, right?

That was your first response. At 2:26, I said, no, I wasn't kidding. From then and 3:15, you posted four times, ducking my question each time.

Hank Chinaski · 05-17-2004, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
That was your first response. At 2:26, I said, no, I wasn't kidding. From then and 3:15, you posted four times, ducking my question each time.

If some turn up, will you say they're old, or too few to mean much?

Seriously, do you dispute that there was abuse, or are you disputing where the money went? Give me a request and I'll find your evidence.