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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
You imply that efforts to understand radical Islamsist and killing radical Islamists are mutually exclusive activities. Wrong. You need to understand the enemy to overcome him.
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OK. With you on that one.
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If you think I'm suggesting we bury our heads in the sand and refuse to recognize the part our own poor foreign policy played in making us "the great satan", you've misread me. We need to uderstand why we're being targeted and modify our own behavior.
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Armed with that understanding, do we do anything other than kill people?
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Unfortunately, that alone will not stop the radicals, so in the interim, with our other free hand, we have to crush their jihad to the best of our abilities. Your soft intellectual solutions are fine fodder for these academic debates, but in reality, you and I both know, you don't fight people like Al Queda by "winning hearts and minds" or through mere political moves. You've got to kill a whole lot of them, and some of the kills must be spectacular, to reinforce the notion that the US cannot be defeated or brushed back. Its a terrible analogy, but think Hiroshima. Some enemeies don't learn until you bring out the huge guns. The other angle we are properly engaging is beefed up intelligence with assassinations of radical leaders, but its still not enough. We should start "disappearing" people in the AQ network. We should put all rivals to radical islamists on the payroll to "hit" the imams who advocate Islamic theocracy and violence against the US.
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Is there anyone left in the United States who is opposed to killing leaders of Al Qaeda? Haven't they all left for France by now? That being the case, what you propose sounds like the Bush Plan -- do what everyone else would do, but talk really tough while doing it. Yep, we're going to leave Fallujah a pile of rubble if they don't produce those tairsts who killed them contractors.
And please say more about my "soft intellectual solutions." I'm both intrigued and a tad aroused, although it's a little early for that.
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And most of all, we should use the best chemotherapy we have on radical Islam - American culture. We should FLOOD their media with American programming more than we do already and dump more of our products into their markets. Our culture is like crack. You feed these bastards enough decadent western junk and they'll forget Islam.
Hell, I'd go as far as to flood their societies with Western drugs like crack and meth. Get them addicted to something that makes them hurt themselves instead of others. Thats insane, but I guarantee, somewhere, there's a classified document discussing how that might work. Hell, drugs keep the cultural stasis in our country. The sort of minds who gravitate to fundamentalism have about the same education as those on meth and crack. Imagine how screwed we'd be if the meth heads had found fundamentalism instead of drugs. Fuck, we'd be saying Hail Marys before the All Star game and jailing people for adultery.
Kill them while converting them. A little carrot and stick action. Levis, a discman, a membership to BMG music club, a little internet porn, subscriptions to People and US Weekly, a little fantasy football, some electric shavers and chicks on the street dressing like Britney... OR, join the jihad - have the air sucked out of your lungs by a Daisy Cutter.
They'll all forget Allah like the fiction he is... you'd have shit for brains to bargian for 72 afterlife virgins when you had live hotties right in front of you. I've seen some of those Iraqi women in western dress. Some are damn fine... they have a sort of Latina-hottie thing going...
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I'm down with all of this, and to prove it to you, I signed Zarqawi up last night for a little visit from the Church of Latter Day Saints. Plus, they'll be sending him a copy of the Book of Mormon. Not exactly the sort of U.S. culture you had in mind, but as American as apple pie. It takes all kinds.
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