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Old 08-15-2005, 03:46 PM   #11
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The Isreali conflict began in biblical times, when Nebuchadnezzar first drove the Jews from Judea, while allowing the Phillistines, the ancestors of today's Palestinians to expand byond their then-boundary in Canaan and occupy Judea. Subsequent banishment of Jews from Isreal came during the reign of the Romans, and the Ottoman Turks.

In 1945, the Zionists of Britain and the Unisted States saw the historical homeland of Israel as a place for the millions of Jews displaced from their homes by the Nazi occupation of continental Europe to find safe haven. Anti-semitic influences in the U.S., Britain, and the Soviet Empire found it convenient to allow this migration as a means of avoiding the problem of resettlement of these Jews in Europe. They clearly had no stomach to repatriate the land, property, and businesses of which the Jews had been stripped.

Palestine was at the time a British Protectorate. The British, not quite sure what to do about the overcrowding created by the displaced Jews and the Palestinian underclass waffled, hoping that the whole mess could be foisted on the fledgling United Nations. The British, in the Balfour Declaration of 1917, had declared Palestine a Jewish Homeland, but they never really took steps to create an independent state, or to mediate the burgeoning tension between Jews and Arab Palestinians.

The Jews newly arrived in Palestine, along with the minority of native Jews who had been kept in ghettos in the cities of Palestine, took matters into their own hands in 1948. In that year, they gave birth to terrorism by blowing up the East Wing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. Among the terrorists was Yitzhak Shamir, later to be elected Prime Minister of Israel.

The British response was to flee Palestine, summarily dividing it into two halves, one Jewish, one Arab. The Arab League and the Hagunah, the two primary paramilitary terrorist organizations of the Arabs and the Jews then began the 1948 War of Israeli Independence. To make a short story even shorter, the Jews won.

It was during this war, the war started by Egypt in 1956, and the war started by Syria and Egypt in 1967, that large numbers of Palestinians either fled as refugees or were expelled as hostile combatants from Israel.

The Arab League eventually split up into many groups, among the Hamas, the PLO, and Al-Fatah. The Haganah became the Israeli Defence Force, and ultimately, the Israeli Army.

To this day, it is still the official political and limitary position of Hamas that the Palestinian people will not rest until every last Jew in Israel is pushed into the sea.

So, to answer your questions...

1. So, the same rule that says that we don't have to give the country back to the Indians, England is free to ignore the Pope, and Mexico no longer has to pay a ransom in gold to the King of Spain is the reason that the Jews are allowed to be in Israel and they needn't move back to the land that was stolen from them by non-Jewish Europeans in WWII.

2. Israel occupies the West Bank and the Gaza strip because they have always been a historical part of Judea/Canaan/Palestine/TransJordan/Israel. That and because the Syrians, Jordanians, Lebanese, Yemenites, Egyptians, and the Arab League lost the wars of 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1972.

3. The Jews did not create Isreal in 1948, the British did. However, after the British turned tail and ran, the Jews won the 1948 War. For parallels in other British colonies, see South Africa, no longer ruled by the Afrikaans, Zimbabwe, no longer ruled by white plantation owners, etc.

4. Yes, it is possible to be anti-Zionist without being anti-semitic. However, in order to take such a position, you need to decide at exactly what point in the history of civilization we need to decide who should be in Israel/Palestine. Of course, no matter what point you choose, there will be both Arabs (or Phillistines) and Jews there. And they will be warring over territory.
Excellent summation. Bravo.
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