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Originally posted by Spanky
So let me gets this straight. If this constitution brings peace but women women's rights are restricted then Iraq is worse off than it was under Saddam? That is just absurd.
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I didn't say that (is there an echo in here?), and the question is absurdly hypothetical because if and when they reach some consensus on a constitution, it's not bringing peace, anymore than the elections did. Remember those glorious inkprints on everyone's thumbs?
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No one had any rights under Saddam Hussein. So any rights are a step in a positive direction.
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No one has any rights now, either, in important senses that you seem to be ignoring. It's not like the government has any real capacity to enforce the law. The police are targets. At least there was a measure of order under Hussein. I'm not defending him, but it's unclear to me why you are so convinced that the war zone that we've created is a huge step up.