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Old 05-30-2003, 12:40 PM   #11
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Vanilla - poll... The Naked Channel... Er, Poll?

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Originally posted by Connect_the_Dots
Originally posted by evenodds
My first reaction to this is no freakin way if you are not going to include spread shots or anything remotely sexual.

Even(i know what boys like, i know what guys want)Odds
Your reaction is correct. They did have such a format on cable. It was called the playboy channel and it sucked. 15 minute vignettes of the models with them running around with a beachball or blowing bubbles or playing the piano (naked). No hardcore closeups or anything. This is why Playboy is near bankruptcy. Hef has "vaginaphobia". He thinks it's unclassy for him to show that stuff. A pornographer who is afraid to show vaginas and wants people to think his magazine is "classy". Yeah, that is a good business model. [/QUOTE]

A. Playboy just recently turned a profit.

B. How do you explain the success of Maxim, Stuff and FHM?

C. I am not envisioning an airbrushed Playboy channel. I'm thinking more of a "Here's Mary - she's an aspiring actress. Now she'll undress for you" format. The idea is that seeing one woman undress is like M&Ms - you'll stay for another. The idea of finding out what a hot chick looks like under the clothes is addictive. Net porn doesn't hold you because of the sex aspect - its like gambling - you wonder what's behind the next link. In the same way, parading amateurs and models will hold people. It works along the same principles as Girls Gone Wild, but is more organized and not as contrived.

D. Playboy is wickedly out of touch. Hef is a fucking relic. The articles about the latest audio equip and scotch snifters are like 50s nostalgis pieces. HOWEVER, splashing pink everywhere and money shots galore is extreme in the other direction.

E. Playboy used to show vagina in the 70s and 80s when the disco mitt was popular. Now, however, the shaved look is in - so its harder to show vagina and still be somehwta discrete. Plus, for every attractive pink shot, there's another model who looks like a spoonful of roast beef down there. Do you want to be the photographer who says "On second thought, maybe you'd better close your legs a bit more."
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