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Originally posted by Not Bob
[Murderers bad, fetuses good] is absolutely the general feeling among the laity. Sadly, it looks like this attitude is starting to gain ground in the Church itself. One of the things that used to impress me about the Church was its consistent position on being "pro-life" -- no abortion, no euthanasia, no death penalty. Now it looks like they are picking and choosing, and choosing to go after those who dissent on the "liberal" side of the life issue.
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I totally agree. I think the conservative intelligent Catholic people even kind of agree, but they are happy to see the Church cracking down so are not quibbling with exactly how it's being carried out.
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Originally posted by Not Bob Wrong-o, my little cabbage. The Church has evolved and will contiue to evolve. It hasn't burned a witch in years, and seems to have stopped perpetrating the blood libel as well. Dissent within the bounds of individual conscience has always been part of Catholicism.
Hmm. I seem to be unduly agitated by this. Maybe I should either go to Mass more than once a decade or stop this......
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I did not intend to upset you, my big cucumber. It just seems like rejecting a huge chunk of the beliefs kind of goes beyond the "dissent within the bounds of individual conscience" and that RT's issue was being very unhappy with the Church for wanting to excommunicate such dissenters. I still think y'all would be reasonably happy being Episcopalians who don't go to church rather than Catholics who don't go to church.
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