Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
We had jets flying patrols over a no fly zone that were repeatedly shot at, it turns out by French supplied air defense. I pass on the cheap joke about why none were hit. The air defense capabilities were expressly to defend against US and UK jets. Simple fact. Accept it, don't turn into your relatives.


My point wasn't to say that your relatives are smart people and that you should listen to them. My point was that the "debate" from either side has no tie to the facts. I guarentee Ty and them will call bullshit and distinguish the above on some grounds. I can't predict how yet, but he'll take the position that the oil-for-food scandal is nothing, and that the UN is a-okay.

Understand, a man who wants to be President wants us to be more mindful of the UN. Put aside for a moment that 1/3 of the countries in the UN are Islamic countries that might have a somewhat different view of what's right, put aside the fact that the main export of the UN is vetoed sanctions against Israel, the UN was facilitating selling air defense to Iraq so that Iraq could shoot at jets carried out UN-approved missions over Iraq. To the extent that's a non-event, its time for some of you people to take one long-assed look in the mirror.

I don't understand why you're talking about the oil-for-food scandal. And did you get upset when Halliburton subsidiaries were doing business with Iraq in the 1990's (where do you think the $$$ to buy French munitions was coming from)?