Posting Towards Gomorrah

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Spanky
Where is the flaw in my logic? (If you are going to argue with this post please pick out the number of the specific statement that you disagree with and point out why its assumption is wrong).

1) In order for Al Queda to operate effectively, and to pull off further terrorist attacks, it must keep the identities of its operatives secret.

2) One of the most effective ways to hamper Al Queda effectiveness is to expose what individuals are working with them

3) One place this extremely valuable information (the identities of Al Queda operatives) can definitely be secured is from captured Al Queda operatives.

4) It is part of human nature not to want to expose ones friends and colleagues to danger.

5) The stronger the bond between individuals, the less likely it is they will betray their friends and colleagues.

6) When fighting for a common cause these bonds become even tighter to the point where friends and colleagues are willing to sacrifice their lives for each other.

7) Strong religious belief in ones cause makes individuals even more committed to their causes than normal.

8) Many Al Queda operative have so much religious zeal they are willing to die for their cause.

9) Al Queda operatives, because of their religious zeal, and bonds formed through fighting for a common cause, are going to be extremely reluctant to divulge the identities of their fellow conspirators.

10) It will take a very strong incentive to get these operatives to divulge the names of their fellow members.

11) Pain, mental and physical abuse, and the fear of those, are proven tools to get people to do things they normally wouldn't do.

12) Besides pain, mental and physical abuse, and the fear of such things, there are no other consistently effective methods that can be used to get these Al Queda operatives to betray their colleagues.

13) Although such tactics may sometimes get captured Al Queda operatives to give up bad information, that does not mean that these tactics do not sometimes produce valuable information

14) One way to reduce the ratio of good information to bad information produced by the captive using such techniques is to let the captive know that if the information they give out is bad the treatment will get even worse. If the information is good the bad treatment will be reduced.

15) Most Americans would like to live in a world were pain, physical and mental abuse, were not effective interrogation techniques because there would be no incentive to use them.

16) Such preferences makes many Americans incredibly biased towards any information that would back up the idea that pain, physical and mental abuse, and the fear of such, are not effective interrogation techniques.

some of these guys, well at least Shape shifter, they PAY to be beaten and whipped- as I understand his posts he mainly objects to the governement providing the equivalent for free. he's against handouts.