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Old 12-08-2006, 01:32 AM   #11
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
You're not responding to me. Europe's map hasn't changed all that much in the last 100 years, relative to prior centuries. If what you say is true, then all of this suggests that states become more homogenous, not that world maps are going to change more and more as they develop.
?!?!. Just because it has not changed as much as prior centuries does not mean it has not changed that much. There have been significant border changes in the last hundred years. And in fact the ethnic map of europe has not changed much in the last hundred years. The political map has changed more.

I have an ethnic map of Europe from 1850 right in front of me. Since that time the political borders have moved a lot more to conform to the ethnic boundaries than people have moved to conform to political boundaries. The only major exception to that rule was Stalin's ethnic cleansing.

So in the last century the homogenity has come more from borders moving than people moving.

In addition, if the break up of the soviet union does not count as ethnic borders being created because the borders were already there as soviet states, then the same holds true for the United Kingdom. Scotland, Ireland and Wales are already separate states.

In the last undred years you had the break up of the Russian Empire, the Austro-Hungarian empire and the Ottoman empire. You also had the break up of Yugoslavia. Those were major border changes that all made the political borders move closer to ethnic borders with out people having to move much at all. Yugoslavia did have some movement of people but most of those people have moved back now.

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