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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I, like David Letterman, think Bill O'Reilly is a loudmouth and a moron, a pompous jackass who ought not be taken seriously. Refusing to answer his questions is like refusing to respond when someone asks you -- non-ironically -- "when did you stop beating your wife?" If the basis for your views is this montage of responses to O'Reilly's questions, then you need say no more. If you think that's good evidence of anything -- which is to say, if you think David Letterman wants the US to fail in Iraq -- then we can agree to disagree.
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You are the King of the "fallacy" arguments. Did you ever take a class in philosophy or logic? You can't discount someone's argument just because of "who they are". Who cares what you think of him? Who cares if he was a communist or Nazi? In this case he has done a very simple thing. He, like me, has been told that everyone puts a high priority on the US succeeding in Iraq. He has just asked all these people a very simple question to test if this is the case. .
Even if one feels he is a jerk, or whatever, they could still just answer, “yes I would like to see the US succeed in Iraq.” If you watch the Letterman clip it is clear he does not put a high priority on the US succeeding in Iraq. I think David Letterman doesn't think our goals in the Iraq war are that important and sees the troops dying for no reason. I can’t be sure, but he sure didn’t want to come out and say it is important for the US to succeed in Iraq.
This whole discussion started because you were incredulous to the fact that there was a large swath of people, pundits and politicians, who don't think winning in Iraq is that important. There are a lot of people that fall into that category. They just don't see any reason for us to be over there. Or the justification is so minor, that it isn't worth much blood and treasure at all.
So most of the people that are calling for a pullout are not people that think it is important to succeed and think pulling out will improve our changes of success, they are arguing for a pull out because they don't think America can accomplish anything of value over there. They just don’t see there is much value in establishing a stable democracy there.
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