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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Anyone -

This debate sucks. I won't get into specifics of the thing because it's all been argued before - here, there, everywhere.

In scanning page after page of this thing I see nothing but crap. I see conservatives trying to change the issue from science to whether Al Gore is a hypocrite. So he is. So what?

I see liberals ignoring just about every argument Spanky offers as heresy because, no matter how much evidence the guy uses, their knee jerk reaction to almost any skepticism of the "Global Warming Crisis" is to react like the Vatican does to a new form of birth control. You wonder why the people in this country don't listen to the San Francisco Wing of the Democrat Party? It's not because those bleeding hearts lack evidence - it's because they argue their points with a religious fervor that immediately turns everybody off. Ty generally has a great wealth of evidence behind what he posts here, and he and Spanky duke it out very well. But in his wake, there's this jerk-off echo chamber of liberals who do nothing but flip snarky responses at Spanky and offer shrill back ups for Ty's positions. Here's a tip - leave Ty's evidence to stand on its own; that's usually enough. Spanky will poke some holes in it and make everyone consider it with the proper critical eye. In the end, we'll come to the rational conclusions:

1 - There is some truth to Global Warming, and man being its cause, but the solution is not as easy as the knee-jerk panaceas offered by the hysterical Left wingers who've made the issue their new religion, nor is the assignment of blame; and

2 - That Spanky - who seems to understand the economic impact of the sort of "feel good" agendas favored by the Left better than anyone on this board - makes a very fucking important point when he says we can't just turn economies inside out to satisfy the Left's pet issue of the moment.

We reached a conclusion weeks ago that the science of global warming is not settled, and really never could be unless we had climatoligical data going back millions of years. Should we take measured steps to avoid pollution? Yes, for many reasons beyond just global warming. Should those steps be radical to the point they damage economies and put people in already precarious financial positions in worse ones? Of course not.

So why the fuck are we bitching about Al Gore being a hypocrite? No shit... he's a fucking politician. And why is every one of Spanky's reasoned arguments met with hyperbolic ranting replies? Ya think he doesn't realize he's at a disadvantage, and that his opponents are probably correct in a healthy percentage of their claims? My suspicion is most of the Lefty Echo Chamber here is just so fucking annoying you've pushed him to want to argue every point if for no other reason than to laugh at a bunch of fulminating fellow travelers. I know that's what I'd do...

Driving a big goddamned SUV,
SD

As you are mostly correct, the only thing I am going to say is that you give Spanky too much credit. He takes the same approach on every issue (oversimplify, mock, stick to your guns).