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Old 01-13-2004, 04:00 PM   #11
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
The only thing that gets my goat is that by talking the Yankees out of offering him arbitration "just in case" - he prevented the Yankees from getting compensatory draft picks from the Astros. That is a dick move.

Otherwise, I (and Thurgreed, I'm sure) stand by this assessment:

2003:
Mussina, Pettite, Clemens, Wells, Weaver

2004:
Mussina, Vasquez, Brown, Contreres, Lieber.

But for Mussina, we've gotten better at every spot in the rotation. And but for Lieber, we've gotten a lot younger, too.
You are right on each of your points. Clemens was never a favorite of mine. Of course, when he's a Yankee, I'll support him like any other Yankee, but I think most Yankee fans remember when he pegged Jeter (in spring training, I believe) for no reason other than that he had had success against him.

And this "I'm coming out of retirement" crap is ridiculous. You have to actually miss a game to be retired. Whatever.

Houston's rotation has definitely improved and you have to give their front office respect for that. But, mark my words, Pettitte and Clemens will not have close to the same number of wins this year. Their numbers may stay the same (because they're pitching in the national league), but wins will drop.

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