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Originally posted by sgtclub
You still don't understand the point, which was a substantive point, that I was trying to make. Your post that I was responding to seemed to suggest that you were drawing a distinction between the murders that should be attributed to SH and those to the regime itself (remember, the discussion was over the 2MM figure). I was only pointing out that under that logic, not all of the murders in germany should be attributed to Hitler. That is it. It was a simple counter point/misunderstanding.
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No, no, no. I answered this earlier (albeit in as condescending a fashion as I could muster). I NEVER drew a distinction in any way, shape or form that distinguished between what SH and the regime were responsible for -- why distinguish among co-conspirators like that? You invented words like "direct" and "institutional" that I never used, reading into what I said some kind of concept that there was direct involvement by SH only up to a point, which was never a point I made at all. They're blood on his hands even if he wasn't the trigger man, we are all agreed on that.
My distinction was between "widespread mass murders", e.g., the period of time in which Saddam Hussein and his cohorts engaged in killings that could be counted in the tens and even hundreds of thousands and the period in this century, as fringey put it, after the year 2000, where there were certainly murders to be laid at the feet of Saddam and his cohorts, but they were not the kinds one counts in 10s and 100s of thousands.
I then made the point that the widespread mass murders were most prevalent in the early 90s, on the first Bush's watch, and that if we were intervening to stop them, that was the time. By the time Bush intervened, yes, there were still murders going on, but not on the scale of the early 90s.
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