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		| Originally posted by Not Bob So, unless we were in the Revolutionary War, we can't use "Benedict Arnold" as shorthand for a betrayal? Or, if we weren't around to see Nixon cry on television in 1952, we can't talk about a "Checkers speech"? Please. If you think it's stupid, fine. I feel the same way about "em" -- not because people who use it weren't around when it was first used, but because I think that it's stupid.
 
 Paigow, you know I dig you in a way much much more than the stereotypical "married FB guy digs unmarried FB betty" way (am I allowed to say "FB betty"? oh, wait -- I may have been around for that one, so nevermind), but this whole board longevity thing is tiresome. As you occasionally point out when others engage in it.
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 I guess the distinctin is a little too subtle for some folks.  You know the genesis of "benedcit arnold" .  You understand it. that is the difference.  That said, I dont use cliches except ironically bc I think they are trite, unoriginal, unexpresswive  and, well, cliche.  but many people do.  fine.  all I am saying is know the genesis of the saying.  at a minimum you can appreciate how stupid it is and thus how stupid the term is without blindly uttering it like a member of some frat pledge class.