Politics: Onward from New Hampshire

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by bilmore
You have explicitly said, in several posts recently, that it would be nice if I actually read what you posted before I attacked it. I have.

Forgive me for being less than fully clear. It would be nice if you would acknowledge that I link to support, rather than complaining that I form views without any basis.

Me too. But I believed it. That's what the evidence shows happened.

That's what we're discussing. You're a couple days late to figure out what the conversation is about, but now that we're on the same page I expect you'll start to carry your end.

"Want"? No, you misunderestimate. The story WAS about Spanish appeasement and cowardice. I would much rather it had not been that way. Why do you want it to be otherwise so badly that you will go through these contortions to keep it from being so? You have made up a new, after-the-fact rationalization that fails to square with the facts (go look at pics of the election-eve protests, and read their signs) and that glorifies justifications that even the Spanish didn't think of until the morning after? Why do you so not want this to be a reflection of base self-interest, fear, and ransom-paying?

Now that you've proven that you can say I want it to be about one thing, and I've proven that I can say that you want it to be about another, can we agree that it's just a stupid form of argument?

Your linked article started out with "now that we all agree that he's a fucking liar . . .". You can lead a horse to water, but you can't paint it pink.

So what? I've already explained that (a) I gave the link as a cite for the FT quote, and (b) Drum is patently referring to previous posts, etc.

It was his first headline, bolded, and his second thesis sentence, and the rest of the blog was in support of those statements. If I say "Atticus is a big fat lying sunnovabitch who screws sheep on Thursdays", my main point isn't that AG has a good social life on Thursdays.

It amazes me that you continue to evade that Drum's post centered on the fact that the FT reported that the Spanish government was lying to German intelligence. You initially dismissed this account as partisan hackery -- since SAM and I pointed out that it was the FT reporting it, not Drum, you're just ignoring it. Yes, Drum was writing about the Spanish government lying. The hook was a respected newspaper reporting that the Spanish government lied.

Uh huh. Then link to the FT article, and avoid the initial "HE LIED HE LIED HE LIED HE'S A BIG FAT LIAR" dicta that means nothing to you.

I linked to Drum because his blog entry was in my browser's address bar, thereby avoiding the need to right-click on the link to the FT and copy the url from the properties therein. I'm sorry that my singular act of laziness, which saved me maybe a second of my life and a few extra movements of my right hand, has been the cause of so much distress on your part. It appears to have taken much more time off your lifespan, for reasons that quite elude me.