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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Here I was, thinking that the Cold War was more than "nothing." And here I was, thinking that there was some space between "nothing" and "dropping A-bombs every place we think Stalin might be."*
*Which others might call "the slaughter of untold millions of people on an unprecedented scale," but I guess that's just fine and dandy with you because, after all, if it brings democracy then the interests of the many outweigh all those millions of dead people and the fried cities and the radiation and....
you really are insane.
Fuck you, Spanky.
Your problem is you are a fucking zealot, who is incapable of listening to anyone who does not wear the "Neo-con" badge. You are advocating the slaughter of millions through massive atomic bombing -- and then, when you say that would be justified because it would magically result in democracy (in a country that had never known it), you have the nerve to attack others for supposedly believing in "the good of the many outweighs the harm to a few (or the slaughter of millions, a la Spanky)"
Are you listening to yourself?
I'm sorry, but the notion of an alliance with Hitler is too far-fetched for me to believe.
But, given you view that we should have dropped a-bombs indiscrimately across Eastern Europe, I can see how it's something you would view as a possibility.
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1) Stalin was on the verge of killing millions of people. Our dropping of Atom bombs to get rid of him could have very well saved millions of lives.
2) You did not answer the question of why it was OK to bomb Japan into oblivion if they did not unconditionally surrender? We were planning on dropping one hundred Atomic bombs. We had no reason to believe that Japan would surrender after two (the fire bombing of Tokyo killed many more people yet they fought on) There was no indication two was going to do it? Why was this mass slaughter of Japanes citizens OK to get Tojo to step down? Why was this not a nuremburg crime? We could have accepted a conditional surrender and not have had to kill millions of Japanese. Why was that OK?
3) why is our aligning ourselves with Hitler so ludicrous. We allied ourselves with Stalin and were they not the same? The Vatican initially sided with Hitler because he was anti-communist. Hitler initially thought that England would be his alley against Russia. He never really wanted to fight the west, he wanted to fight Russia. The problem was that England and France declared war on him when he hit Poland. If they had not, he would have just kept going east (have you not at least read a summary of Mein Kampf).
And why don't you just answer the question? If we had allied with Hitler to defeat Stalin (if Stalin had attacked us that would not have been inconceivable) would it have been OK to nuke Germany to get rid of Hitler if he had not attacked us.
What if Hitler had taken Britain in 1940 and we had never entered into war with Hitler. If we had invented the bomb before Germany did, would it have been OK to tell Hitler to step down or we would Nuke?
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