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Originally posted by Spanky
Aren't these "Post Hoc" because we couldn't know this:

Bullshit. The neo-cons and the Admin refused to even think about it, but that does not mean that a realistic assessment of what an occupation would require was impossible. Shinseki, for example, called for several hundred thousand troops.

Countrys most often get into alliances because many are stronger than one. Sometimes you need help to get the job done. In this case we didn't need anyone else's help. It is nice if we can get help from other countrys to further our national interest but it is not a prerequisite.

We didn't need any help to get the job done?

Then why is it not even close to done?

And your suggestion that they looked the same from a justification perspective is even more ridiculous. One had attacked us, and was continuing to harbor the people who wanted to continue attacking us. The other couldn't harm us at all. Yes, they wanted to kill the president -- but do you really believe that all of this was worth it to protect the president from an assassination attempt by Iraq?

For some of us, the fact that they could ever get together was enough.

For some of us, 12 years of them not doing so, and hating each other, etc. was enough to suggest that maybe we had better targets out there. Like, say, bin Laden.