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		|  10-17-2016, 10:15 AM | #1966 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  The bass player from some dumb 80s band is my friend on FB. |  One of my high school friends has had a career in the recording industry - now a mucketty-muck at Pandora, used to be one of the main talent managers at Columbia.
 
I don't look at his friends.  It just makes me feel old.
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		|  10-21-2016, 06:19 PM | #1972 |  
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				for the litigators
			 
 State claims in a verified response to discovery they don't have video footage. At clsimant's deposition, they attempt to prove claimant was not injured, as she claims. Only problem is, the video is not claimant. On the other hand, the clips ARE enough to prove the video State claimed didn't exist did, in fact exist.
 State's counsel admits to spoliation of evidence. And perjury. Does the destruction of evidence and perjury support federal 1983 or 1984 action?
 
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		|  10-21-2016, 08:16 PM | #1973 |  
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					Originally Posted by taxwonk  State claims in a verified response to discovery they don't have video footage. At clsimant's deposition, they attempt to prove claimant was not injured, as she claims. Only problem is, the video is not claimant. On the other hand, the clips ARE enough to prove the video State claimed didn't exist did, in fact exist.
 State's counsel admits to spoliation of evidence. And perjury. Does the destruction of evidence and perjury support federal 1983 or 1984 action?
 |  ouch but something deep in the recesses of my feeble mind tell me that spoliation and perjury don't create independent charges but you may want to check w someone who handles these.
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					Originally Posted by Icky Thump  ouch but something deep in the recesses of my feeble mind tell me that spoliation and perjury don't create independent charges but you may want to check w someone who handles these. |  I took down an evil empire that was going around the country suing companies that were doing a good thing (hands a bit tied here). These were patent infringement cases. Spoliation was a major argument to throw out their claims, and led to a very favorable settlement. but yeah, i don't think there was any specific claim generated by it. Didn't look though. Sidd is the only other lit guy here but I don't imagine that issue comes up much in pawn shop law. i'd google.
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					Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski  I took down an evil empire that was going around the country suing companies that were doing a good thing (hands a bit tied here). These were patent infringement cases. Spoliation was a major argument to throw out their claims, and led to a very favorable settlement. but yeah, i don't think there was any specific claim generated by it. Didn't look though. Sidd is the only other lit guy here* but I don't imagine that issue comes up much in pawn shop law. i'd google. |  Not that you need another answer (Hank and Icky have it covered), but my feelings are hurt.
 
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		|  10-25-2016, 05:51 PM | #1978 |  
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				You spoiled discovery
			 
 Thanks to all who replied. Step Two, look into the IL equivalent of Rule 11 sanctions. State's outside counsel was pissed cause his client made him look like a clown and even he admitted the State's lawyer in this case is a total dick. 
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					Originally Posted by Not Bob  Not that you need another answer (Hank and Icky have it covered), but my feelings are hurt.
 *Emphasis supplied, of course.
 |  Conf to NB: Raising the issue is a nasty thing cuz it means the law firm screwed up in how it handled evidence. I know you recognize that, but I didn't want to point to Wonk to you for further advice, because, frankly, it would be notnice for you to educate wonk on how to potentially ruin another person's career! Namaste!
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