Objectively intelligent.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

We have so many faculty members at all six schools looking at this. I don't remember a time where all of us were working together so closely for a common goal. Usually everyone is so siloed. And they are to some extent, but we actually have med school people talking to public health people. The bench science people with the transitional medicine people. The informatics people with nursing people. Which is something that should have been happening for forever but doesn't. I hope this part stays afterwards.

ETA: Our IRB is reviewing 80 Covid related protocols right now.

Seem like a lot of reasons to prefer to delay infections as much as possible....

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

Seem like a lot of reasons to prefer to delay infections as much as possible....

Heard a report from a Howard Stern staffer today, living in Manhattan. It is broken down. He saw a woman mugged on the street today. No police presence anywhere. If T was around or Gwink maybe we can here about it? Icky, any idea of the truthfulness? This can't last much longer.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Heard a report from a Howard Stern staffer today, living in Manhattan. It is broken down. He saw a woman mugged on the street today. No police presence anywhere. It T was around or Gwink maybe we can here about it? Icky, any idea of the truthfulness? This can't last much longer.

In my area, some burglaries at closed restaurants got play on the evening news, but the news neglected to mention that crime has been down during the shelter in place. YMMV.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

In my area, some burglaries at closed restaurants got play on the evening news, but the news neglected to mention that crime has been down during the shelter in place. YMMV.

Closed restaurants? If you can't walk down the street in Manhattan because the police are gone, how you gonna go?

[LessinSF]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Closed restaurants? If you can't walk down the street in Manhattan because the police are gone, how you gonna go?

I can barely walk 2/3 blocks without seeing a police car. And cops are stationed on various street corners and locations. I cannot speak for NYC, except to suggest that getting your news from a Howard Stern staffer based upon one incident seems dubious.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by LessinSF

I can barely walk 2/3 blocks without seeing a police car. And cops are stationed on various street corners and locations. I cannot speak for NYC, except to suggest that getting your news from a Howard Stern staffer based upon one incident seems dubious.

I asked T and Gwinc for deets.

My main police fear is i'll get arrested on walks and runs for public peeing shitting as all public restrooms are closed and the po po is still out. Though I have to say not so much in sight in Detroit proper, where they need to be in sight.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

So...

As someone who used to keep a pack of American Spirits hidden in the garage, and a long time consumer of acid-reflux drugs, am I possibly Covid-proof?

I’ve been looking for an excuse to have a smoke after dinner for years, but the wife says it’s a terrible example for a kid. And I can switch down from proton pump inhibitors to Pepcid.

Does vice save me? That might make me religious. A devout satanist.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Closed restaurants? If you can't walk down the street in Manhattan because the police are gone, how you gonna go?

I'm sure no one ever got mugged there before, amirite?

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Heard a report from a Howard Stern staffer today, living in Manhattan. It is broken down. He saw a woman mugged on the street today. No police presence anywhere. If T was around or Gwink maybe we can here about it? Icky, any idea of the truthfulness? This can't last much longer.

I was in Manhattan around noon yesterday and I saw an average of one cop car per block so I call bullshit. I call bullshit on the whole Mamet rat story too.

ETA, I have been going there once every two weeks or so. Yesterday Manhattan was more populated than it was the prior two times.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

So...

As someone who used to keep a pack of American Spirits hidden in the garage, and a long time consumer of acid-reflux drugs, am I possibly Covid-proof?

I’ve been looking for an excuse to have a smoke after dinner for years, but the wife says it’s a terrible example for a kid. And I can switch down from proton pump inhibitors to Pepcid.

Does vice save me? That might make me religious. A devout satanist.

Don't know about GERD but did read this:

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/86144

One possible explanation is that smoking results in increased production of nitric oxide within the nasal passages, which have the important role of cleaning and filtering the air prior to it being pulled down to the lungs. This first pass exposure to nitric oxide in the nose may be key to preventing infection. This gas has been shown to block the ability of SARS-CoV-2 from entering cells as well as impair the ability of the virus to replicate once inside the cell. On the other hand, if the infection ensues, the systemic effect of smoking breaks down the body's ability to defend itself. The same inflammation that potentially protects against initial infection suddenly becomes the body's Achilles heel.

"Lemme get those honey nut cheerios and a carton o Newport"

[Pretty Little Flower]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

This disease only has a 2% death rate. Worst case scenario we have a few thousand deaths. Mostly old and infirm people. Kids don't seem to be impacted much by it. So I don't think you'll see a significant number of dead kids, which would the only type of deaths shocking enough to get people angry.

Catching up a bit here, but this is really reassuring! Thank you!

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

I was in Manhattan around noon yesterday and I saw an average of one cop car per block so I call bullshit. I call bullshit on the whole Mamet rat story too.

ETA, I have been going there once every two weeks or so. Yesterday Manhattan was more populated than it was the prior two times.

There's quite a bit of historical evidence that people staying home - during weather events (or just cold) and even things like when there are popular video games released - crime goes measurably down. I'd start with things actually being quite a bit safer right now being the default assumption. What a Stern staffer said is far from enough to overcome that presumption for me, but ymmv. Also, I'm going to go out on a (pretty sturdy) limb and guess that the staffer is white, given that the presence of police makes him feel safer.

That said, they two or so times I've been downtown in the last month and a half have felt weird because people experiencing homeless seemed to be almost the only people around. They're always around, of course, but there's usually others around too.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Adder

There's quite a bit of historical evidence that people staying home - during weather events (or just cold) and even things like when there are popular video games released - crime goes measurably down. I'd start with things actually being quite a bit safer right now being the default assumption. What a Stern staffer said is far from enough to overcome that presumption for me, but ymmv. Also, I'm going to go out on a (pretty sturdy) limb and guess that the staffer is white, given that the presence of police makes him feel safer.

That said, they two or so times I've been downtown in the last month and a half have felt weird because people experiencing homeless seemed to be almost the only people around. They're always around, of course, but there's usually others around too.

My expectations are framed by the movie Contagion, and what happened there after lock down.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Don't know about GERD but did read this:

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/86144

One possible explanation is that smoking results in increased production of nitric oxide within the nasal passages, which have the important role of cleaning and filtering the air prior to it being pulled down to the lungs. This first pass exposure to nitric oxide in the nose may be key to preventing infection. This gas has been shown to block the ability of SARS-CoV-2 from entering cells as well as impair the ability of the virus to replicate once inside the cell. On the other hand, if the infection ensues, the systemic effect of smoking breaks down the body's ability to defend itself. The same inflammation that potentially protects against initial infection suddenly becomes the body's Achilles heel.

"Lemme get those honey nut cheerios and a carton o Newport"

So the takeaway is that Whippits are going to save us?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

So the takeaway is that Whippits are going to save us?

For a moment there my heart fluttered with immense joy. Then I recalled, they’re nitrous rather than nitric.

How awesome would it be if those were a cure? I could tune out during calls, and reply in that deep nitrous voice... “Sorrrry... therrrapyyyyy... preee-vennn-tuh-tivvvvv...”