Objectively intelligent.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

My people were Calabrese.

All four grandparents?

[Hank Chinaski]

I'm currently trying to get Dr. Sarno's position on how his teaching can deal with Covic 19. I'm pretty sure if you can't breath, you just need to go out and run through it, but until I know for sure, don't take my word.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I think you have to differentiate between sectors. Health systems here pressed the governor (actually threatened to defy him) to resume elective procedures, as our bed and ICU capacity remained strong.

They're packed with patients. As are eye docs, dentists, orthos, derms, etc.

CPAs have been insanely busy through this, but most of that has been work from home. Don't know how lawyers are doing.

Seems that the necessities or borderline necessities are weathering this mess. The purely elective purchases (bars, restaurants, movies, certain retailers, etc.) are more challenged, or completely fucked (gyms, yoga studios).

I think the percentage drop in gdp from country to country will be the same because the elective purchases from nation to nation tend to be the same. The test for Sweden will be whether it resumes those elective purchases faster than the rest of the world.

My yoga studio has done REALLY well pivoting to online. The classes on Zoom have been up to two hundred people for the popular teachers, probably bringing in $2500 a day with minimal overhead. They're planning on keeping it as an option even after they reopen.

In unrelated news, I gave blood for my antibody test today. We'll see if that bug I caught in NYC in February was just a bug or something more sinister in a day or so.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

oopsie

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I'm currently trying to get Dr. Sarno's position on how his teaching can deal with Covic 19. I'm pretty sure if you can't breath, you just need to go out and run through it, but until I know for sure, don't take my word.

Pretty sure that's a dumb idea.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

1000 sailors on that ship got it. Calm the fuck down.

13 oopsied. Statistical blip or trend? It doesn't say.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

13 oopsied. Statistical blip or trend? It doesn't say.

Testing glitch.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan

My yoga studio has done REALLY well pivoting to online. The classes on Zoom have been up to two hundred people for the popular teachers, probably bringing in $2500 a day with minimal overhead. They're planning on keeping it as an option even after they reopen.

Places I didn't realize I can totally do without: the gym, the office, the subway, the Metro North.

I will never go back to New York Sports Club,. Doing Nike workouts in my basement have been great, I have made better progress without the drive, without the old guys sitting on machines talking about Hilary's emails and about how they were going to blow dry their balls in the locker room.

I don't miss the commute, the sitting next to mutants on metro north, the stink of a packed subway, the office with its walk arounds, the coworkers and their corona coughs. I plan on sharing with the class that I will work from home until they shit can me.

In unrelated news, I gave blood for my antibody test today. We'll see if that bug I caught in NYC in February was just a bug or something more sinister in a day or so.

Hope all is OK.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

13 oopsied. Statistical blip or trend? It doesn't say.

Testing 5000, dealing with 1000 sick, 13 they thought were over it aren’t? It’s not that the 90% accurate test was wrong? FOH

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

Testing 5000, dealing with 1000 sick, 13 they thought were over it aren’t? It’s not that the 90% accurate test was wrong? FOH

That ain't it chief.

"including testing negative for the virus at least twice, but have now retested positive. "

What it does say is that these sailors were retested because they complained of symptoms. What it does not say is the remaining sailors that tested negative continued to test negative.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

That ain't it chief.

"including testing negative for the virus at least twice, but have now retested positive. "

What it does say is that these sailors were retested because they complained of symptoms. What it does not say is the remaining sailors that tested negative continued to test negative.

South Korea seems to be saying that recovered people testing positive are shedding inactive virus, but that doesn't explain re-appearing symptoms.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Places I didn't realize I can totally do without: the gym, the office, the subway, the Metro North.

I will never go back to New York Sports Club,. Doing Nike workouts in my basement have been great, I have made better progress without the drive, without the old guys sitting on machines talking about Hilary's emails and about how they were going to blow dry their balls in the locker room.

I don't miss the commute, the sitting next to mutants on metro north, the stink of a packed subway, the office with its walk arounds, the coworkers and their corona coughs. I plan on sharing with the class that I will work from home until they shit can me.

Hope all is OK.

Commuting to work that can be done at home? Over.
Expensive commercial office palaces? Over.
Flights to Cleveland for a half day depositions? Over.
Wasting money on ugly corporate casual clothes? Over.
Expensive leases for parking adjacent to corporate offices in cities? Over.
Team building meetings through which everyone daydreams? Over.
The server farm in the mail/supply room (and the guy who charges $2k to fix it every time it glitches)? Gone.
Unnecessary court appearances which can be conducted by phone and only serve to fatten defense counsel's wallets? Over.
Value of "face time"? Dropping rapidly.

This new world is an introvert's (or misanthrope's) delight. And I think it might be far more egalitarian. Removing the office removes a lot of the political games which allow less talented people to move up the ladder.

It's also a fantastic development for the environment. Imagine the increase in air quality accruing from a decrease in commuter traffic.

However, I do not like my basement workout. Old school iron free weights definitely increase strength more effectively than machines. But they require I remain in my home, which exposes me to being interrupted by family. I went to the gym to get away for an hour and a half. (I also can't shoot the shit with judges or local business people in my basement.)

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Commuting to work that can be done at home? Over.
Expensive commercial office palaces? Over.
Flights to Cleveland for a half day depositions? Over.
Wasting money on ugly corporate casual clothes? Over.
Expensive leases for parking adjacent to corporate offices in cities? Over.
Team building meetings through which everyone daydreams? Over.
The server farm in the mail/supply room (and the guy who charges $2k to fix it every time it glitches)? Gone.
Unnecessary court appearances which can be conducted by phone and only serve to fatten defense counsel's wallets? Over.
Value of "face time"? Dropping rapidly.

This new world is an introvert's (or misanthrope's) delight. And I think it might be far more egalitarian. Removing the office removes a lot of the political games which allow less talented people to move up the ladder.

It's also a fantastic development for the environment. Imagine the increase in air quality accruing from a decrease in commuter traffic.

However, I do not like my basement workout. Old school iron free weights definitely increase strength more effectively than machines. But they require I remain in my home, which exposes me to being interrupted by family. I went to the gym to get away for an hour and a half. (I also can't shoot the shit with judges or local business people in my basement.)

I seem to be in more pointless meetings than ever. It might be to reassure ourselves that everything is still going forward, but a definite uptick.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Hank Chinaski

I seem to be in more pointless meetings than ever. It might be to reassure ourselves that everything is still going forward, but a definite uptick.

Things are going forward. The economy seems to have split into two camps:

1. People in Soft Professions w/o Easily Measurable Metrics, or Safe Jobs

Teachers, people who work for well-endowed colleges, government admin deemed essential, those working for massive corporations largely immune to the downturn (insurers, some banks, online sellers of necessities, some lawyers, CPAs).

These people are, predictably, totally okay with prolonged isolation. They're safe, so a stagnant economy is actually in their best interests. It limits virus spread and provides the best chance for them to be able to wait it out until there's a treatment or a vaccine.

2. People Whose Performance Can be Measured, or Who Will Go Under if They Don't Work

This would be the working poor (the people we're calling "heroes" while still paying them shit wages), doctors providing non-essential services, dentists, chiropractors, small retailers, car dealers, mechanics, real estate agents, contractors, salespeople who do not work exclusively by phone.

These people are moving forward because they have no choice but to move forward. They aren't safe and they can't work from home. These are the people you're seeing on the highway, on the city buses, taking the subway.

. . .

Things are moving forward. For half the country. They are adapting and taking risks out of necessity. The other half is hunkering down and hoping to economically survive.

The Moore's Law-like replacement of labor with tech is accelerated in moments like these. Right now, some creeps at McKinsey are finding ways to replace a shit ton of the hunkering down workers (the sticky ones in middle management who make themselves difficult to remove) with technology to pare costs to replace profits lost as a result of this downturn. (The data coming out of this are going to be amazingly useful. Real life experiments impossible to have modeled.) The insurance adjuster, college administrator, or HR specialist who thinks he or she is safe may be in for a surprise, while the podiatrist who's suffering through the new PPE requirements and wondering how he'll survive is actually the safe man over the long term.

If people were investments, you're better long a residential HVAC installer or roofer than a corporate coach or wealth advisor.

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Things are going forward. The economy seems to have split into two camps:

1. People in Soft Professions w/o Easily Measurable Metrics, or Safe Jobs

Teachers, people who work for well-endowed colleges, government admin deemed essential, those working for massive corporations largely immune to the downturn (insurers, some banks, online sellers of necessities, some lawyers, CPAs).

These people are, predictably, totally okay with prolonged isolation. They're safe, so a stagnant economy is actually in their best interests. It limits virus spread and provides the best chance for them to be able to wait it out until there's a treatment or a vaccine.

2. People Whose Performance Can be Measured, or Who Will Go Under if They Don't Work

This would be the working poor (the people we're calling "heroes" while still paying them shit wages), doctors providing non-essential services, dentists, chiropractors, small retailers, car dealers, mechanics, real estate agents, contractors, salespeople who do not work exclusively by phone.

These people are moving forward because they have no choice but to move forward. They aren't safe and they can't work from home. These are the people you're seeing on the highway, on the city buses, taking the subway.

. . .

Things are moving forward. For half the country. They are adapting and taking risks out of necessity. The other half is hunkering down and hoping to economically survive.

The Moore's Law-like replacement of labor with tech is accelerated in moments like these. Right now, some creeps at McKinsey are finding ways to replace a shit ton of the hunkering down workers (the sticky ones in middle management who make themselves difficult to remove) with technology to pare costs to replace profits lost as a result of this downturn. (The data coming out of this are going to be amazingly useful. Real life experiments impossible to have modeled.) The insurance adjuster, college administrator, or HR specialist who thinks he or she is safe may be in for a surprise, while the podiatrist who's suffering through the new PPE requirements and wondering how he'll survive is actually the safe man over the long term.

If people were investments, you're better long a residential HVAC installer or roofer than a corporate coach or wealth advisor.

You don’t know any teachers or people peopled by colleges, right?

On your other post, we will see but I’d short the idea that this will result in massive permanent changes.