Objectively intelligent.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

I’ve been walking thru stores every day since this started. I’ve been to god knows how many social distanced parties. I pick up take out all the time. The only thing I don’t do is go to bars and restaurants and gyms.

Wear. A. Mask. And distance. You mathematically limit your chances enormously by doing those simple things. Ain’t fucking rocket science. And if you still get it? Well, you did all you could. You’ll get improving therapies and most likely be fine.

Pretty similar here. I've done all that. Masks 100% indoors and whenever I am near other people outdoors even running. No bars, no restaurants, no gyms. And as I have mentioned, no office. The risk of doing eight hours of face time (even if I am masked) when the windows are locked and the maskless cough brigade is circling, just isn't worth it for me. Especially as it was a historic superspreader event in March and no changes have been made.

My boss recently called me and was pissed that I was going to Target instead of in the office doing face time, and I said "That's because Target is safer."

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

Pretty similar here. I've done all that. Masks 100% indoors and whenever I am near other people outdoors even running. No bars, no restaurants, no gyms. And as I have mentioned, no office. The risk of doing eight hours of face time (even if I am masked) when the windows are locked and the maskless cough brigade is circling, just isn't worth it for me. Especially as it was a historic superspreader event in March and no changes have been made.

My boss recently called me and was pissed that I was going to Target instead of in the office doing face time, and I said "That's because Target is safer."

It isn’t terribly hard. My spouse works in healthcare. The professionals who do that for a living know how to wear PPE appropriately, and run almost risk free offices. The rest of us who are not trained in such practices should work from home, and when we go out, do exactly what you and I are doing.

The people who have a really tough slog are those who are not medically trained, and are required to work in close proximity. But I think that businesses are assiduously training these people and how to protect themselves now. And I think we should find a way to give them special stimulus money in exchange for the hazard they are undertaking.

I am also not adverse to implementation of a mask mandate. I don’t think the feds can legally do it, however, if the president simply demands it, most people will follow it. And the loss of those who will not will only increasee our aggregate national IQ.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

My spouse works in healthcare. The professionals who do that for a living know how to wear PPE appropriately, and run almost risk free offices.

Maybe I have a different perspective with a spouse who works in an ICU treating people with respiratory problems. The professionals there know how to wear PPE and nonetheless are at higher risk than most of us. If I get sick, I'm probably getting it from her.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Maybe I have a different perspective with a spouse who works in an ICU treating people with respiratory problems. The professionals there know how to wear PPE and nonetheless are at higher risk than most of us. If I get sick, I'm probably getting it from her.

They are at higher risk, but they're wearing N-95s under surgical masks and face shields. That's a pretty solid barrier.

My spouse is exposed directly to lung aerosols. So is the staff. No issues so far. But following intense protocols to protect against it. Like, insanely OCD level intense.

If I get it, it will be from jackass sneezing on me in Whole Foods. Or at some meeting or court appearance.

Selah... Give me fresh seafood daily or give me death.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

They are at higher risk, but they're wearing N-95s under surgical masks and face shields. That's a pretty solid barrier.

My spouse is exposed directly to lung aerosols. So is the staff. No issues so far. But following intense protocols to protect against it. Like, insanely OCD level intense.

If I get it, it will be from jackass sneezing on me in Whole Foods. Or at some meeting or court appearance.

Selah... Give me fresh seafood daily or give me death.

For anyone really interested, reinfections and relapses are quite real. Just go over to Body Politic and read real-world examples. Reinfections are rare but they happen. Relapses are pretty fucking common.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Icky Thump

For anyone really interested, reinfections and relapses are quite real. Just go over to Body Politic and read real-world examples. Reinfections are rare but they happen. Relapses are pretty fucking common.

A friend of mine had it, jogged daily, smoked, and drank thru it, but felt like shit (uniquely as opposed to the hangovers), and only learned she'd had it thru two later antibody tests. She was pissed at the person she knows gave it to her. Fast forward a month, she was hit with it again, but recognized it this time. It passed much more quickly. She believes it was a reinfection. But I think you're right -- it's a relapse. This thing may work like Epstein Barr. You get run down, it reappears.

I had terrific sweats and a fever two nights ago out of the blue. It had been a robust weekend. But I'd also been with someone who'd had covid a few days before, and I'd just had a crazy work week where I'd slept minimally most of the week and was arguing in court a lot on some stressful shit. Mad sweats, fever, crazy nightmares, but then gone as fast as it appeared. I thought I'd need an ER doc. Woke up at 2:30 with my hair wet like I'd showered. Today? 40 minute erg piece without a problem. If I had it, it's a strange dance. Dumb thing hasn't figured out how to run a long route against my liver like a cornerback with an ankle sprain yet.

[Icky Thump]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

A friend of mine had it, jogged daily, smoked, and drank thru it, but felt like shit (uniquely as opposed to the hangovers), and only learned she'd had it thru two later antibody tests. She was pissed at the person she knows gave it to her. Fast forward a month, she was hit with it again, but recognized it this time. It passed much more quickly. She believes it was a reinfection. But I think you're right -- it's a relapse. This thing may work like Epstein Barr. You get run down, it reappears.

I had terrific sweats and a fever two nights ago out of the blue. It had been a robust weekend. But I'd also been with someone who'd had covid a few days before, and I'd just had a crazy work week where I'd slept minimally most of the week and was arguing in court a lot on some stressful shit. Mad sweats, fever, crazy nightmares, but then gone as fast as it appeared. I thought I'd need an ER doc. Woke up at 2:30 with my hair wet like I'd showered. Today? 40 minute erg piece without a problem. If I had it, it's a strange dance. Dumb thing hasn't figured out how to run a long route against my liver like a cornerback with an ankle sprain yet.

Your friend didn’t have a reinfection in a month. Especially if she had antibodies. It. Was. A Relapse. They go on for months. Stress and/exercise thought to bring it out. Very common to test positive for two months. Also common to have antibodies 3-6 months later.

Reinfection can only be determined from sequencing each virus. Not that there’s a difference in how it makes you feel; relapse isn’t contagious. Reinfection is.

What you had sounds like some covid symptoms. Also cough, chest tightness, loss of smell and taste, weird dreams, body aches, sometimes fever, pick any 2-3. But they usually don’t resolve in a day though a relapse might.