Objectively intelligent.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

Thank you for the confirmation that you haven't read any of the 1619 project.

And, dude, you're not even hotter than Luxembourg.

Ugh. Here, this is close to my proxy: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../1619-s06.html

https://www.wsws.org/en/topics/event/1619

Those biased conservative socialists!

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Ugh. Here, this is close to my proxy: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../1619-s06.html

https://www.wsws.org/en/topics/event/1619

Those biased conservative socialists!

Dear lord, do you even read before posting dreck like that?

[Adder]

Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield

Ugh. Here, this is close to my proxy: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../1619-s06.html

https://www.wsws.org/en/topics/event/1619

Those biased conservative socialists!

"What about other forms of slavery" is not even attempting to engage in the discussion, which is that slavery in the Americas was uniquely racialized and heritable.

But sure, some lefties think all of history is best understood as class struggle. What a surprise.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally Posted by Adder

"What about other forms of slavery" is not even attempting to engage in the discussion, which is that slavery in the Americas was uniquely racialized and heritable.

But sure, some lefties think all of history is best understood as class struggle. What a surprise.

I think the "other forms of slavery" discussion can be fascinating as long as you are using the discussion to understand the horrors of American race slavery rather than excuse, dismiss, or minimize them.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally Posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

I think the "other forms of slavery" discussion can be fascinating as long as you are using the discussion to understand the horrors of American race slavery rather than excuse, dismiss, or minimize them.

Now we're into the serious crazy. Following 1619's release, I heard from all sorts of right wingers about how blacks enslaved other blacks, and there were all sorts of other types of slaves (usually Chinese and Irish were cited).

The Chinese and Irish toiling on the railroads were not slaves. They were more indentured servants, compelled to work and treated horribly. But not slaves.

That blacks enslaved other blacks (the black plantation argument foisted in every email thread your right wing uncle sent to you) is immaterial. Were there plantations on which black owners enslaved whites? No. That seems adequate to end that discussion.