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04-08-2022, 10:39 AM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Re: Song of the Day
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Part of the problem among the non-deliberate actors in the Naked Nose crowd is those dumb cloth masks people like to wear. They're heavy as all fuck (with an outer layer custom crocheted by someone's niece) and gravity does what gravity does.
They're also disgusting. I favored gaters, using ones that veered from women's hair ties pulled over one's head to actual ski mask gaters, or barring that, those black thin stretch masks that cover the face tightly. They allowed one to breathe, whereas the homemade mask, thick as a pillow, appeared to nearly smother the user, while being weighed down with all sorts of perspiration. It struck me as equivalent to wearing a heavy wool sock on one's face.
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Jesus, man. We're past the shortages. You should be wearing N95 or KN95 masks.
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04-10-2022, 05:31 PM
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Re: Song of the Day
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Jesus, man. We're past the shortages. You should be wearing N95 or KN95 masks.
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YMMV, but in this state, even in the biggest buildings in its biggest cities, all people are wearing are those blue surgical masks. Which are utterly useless.
It's been that way for a while now.
Some buildings recently had a policy requiring masks only on the first floor. Some had a policy requiring them only on floors two and above. I'm serious. How fucking nuts is that?
They're all pretty much mask free at this point.
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04-11-2022, 12:10 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
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Re: Song of the Day
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
YMMV, but in this state, even in the biggest buildings in its biggest cities, all people are wearing are those blue surgical masks. Which are utterly useless.
It's been that way for a while now.
Some buildings recently had a policy requiring masks only on the first floor. Some had a policy requiring them only on floors two and above. I'm serious. How fucking nuts is that?
They're all pretty much mask free at this point.
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Our office went to "mask optional" and I was shocked how many people took them off. Nope, still wearing a mask indoors and around people.
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04-11-2022, 08:18 PM
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Re: Song of the Day
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Originally Posted by Adder
Our office went to "mask optional" and I was shocked how many people took them off. Nope, still wearing a mask indoors and around people.
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Maybe it’s geographic, but in the Mid Atlantic, Covid has been “over” for a long time. It started right after everybody got their second vaccine doses. Even immunocompromised friends started dropping them last summer. Delta freaked everybody out and chilled things for a while, but people dropped the masks again when that abated. And no one cares much about Omicron.
You can agree with this or disagree with this, but this is what life’s been like in NJ, Eastern PA, and DE. It’s like the country has Balkanized into different Covid worlds.
ETA: Philadelphia just reinstated mask mandates.
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04-11-2022, 01:38 PM
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Re: Song of the Day
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
YMMV, but in this state, even in the biggest buildings in its biggest cities, all people are wearing are those blue surgical masks. Which are utterly useless.
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I think a lot of you all are wrong about this. My wife wears a surgical mask at a hospital every day. They're not useless. They're not as much protection as a KN95 for the wearer, but I think the point is that if everyone is wearing one, then even infected people are not spreading the virus effectively.
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04-11-2022, 06:56 PM
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Re: Song of the Day
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I think a lot of you all are wrong about this. My wife wears a surgical mask at a hospital every day. They're not useless. They're not as much protection as a KN95 for the wearer, but I think the point is that if everyone is wearing one, then even infected people are not spreading the virus effectively.
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Of course they're not useless.
KN95s are great, but surgical masks are many times better than gaitors, scarves, and other ridiculous things. Sadly, the surgical masks are particular popular among dick-nosers, which is a drawback.
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04-11-2022, 08:21 PM
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Re: Song of the Day
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I think a lot of you all are wrong about this. My wife wears a surgical mask at a hospital every day. They're not useless. They're not as much protection as a KN95 for the wearer, but I think the point is that if everyone is wearing one, then even infected people are not spreading the virus effectively.
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The gaps on those things are so big. You can see the spaces emerge on the sides of people’s faces while they’re talking.
I tend to agree that masks must’ve conferred some benefit. A barrier of any kind seems better than none. But the science seems to state exactly what Icky said. And that’s all above my pay grade.
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04-11-2022, 08:30 PM
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Re: Song of the Day
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I think a lot of you all are wrong about this. My wife wears a surgical mask at a hospital every day. They're not useless. They're not as much protection as a KN95 for the wearer, but I think the point is that if everyone is wearing one, then even infected people are not spreading the virus effectively.
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Does everyone wear one?
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04-11-2022, 09:53 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Re: Song of the Day
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump
Does everyone wear one?
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At her hospital, yes.
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04-12-2022, 12:23 AM
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Re: Song of the Day
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
At her hospital, yes.
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From what I can see, hospitals are the biggest place where people are still taking the pandemic seriously. They are also filled with some of the kindest and most considerate people in the world. Home and hospital are my safe places these days.
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04-12-2022, 09:13 AM
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Re: Song of the Day
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
At her hospital, yes.
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It was a rhetorical question but that's when surgical masks work, when all wear. Alone, in an office of unmasked mutants -- not so much. Team KN95 for now.
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04-12-2022, 02:17 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Song of the Day
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Originally Posted by Icky Thump
It was a rhetorical question but that's when surgical masks work, when all wear. Alone, in an office of unmasked mutants -- not so much. Team KN95 for now.
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Yes, agreed, that's what I usually wear too.
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