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Old 07-01-2022, 03:34 PM   #1
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But it's not just that. The more affluent a white person is, the more likely they are to vote for Trump. It's really not in question.
Which of the articles you linked prove this?
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Old 07-01-2022, 07:06 PM   #2
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Good lord we are a dumb fucking world.

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Old 07-01-2022, 07:41 PM   #3
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Which of the articles you linked prove this?
Give me a fucking break. Have you looked at exit polls? Trump has run for President twice now. There is all sorts of data on this. It's not a secret.
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Old 07-01-2022, 07:56 PM   #4
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Give me a fucking break. Have you looked at exit polls? Trump has run for President twice now. There is all sorts of data on this. It's not a secret.
I read 3 articles Flower posted about how exit polls show Trump voters, in primaries, were higher income than the national average. Higher than average misses the point. Then you said Trump voters are higher income than the average white people. I asked which of the several articles you linked show this. I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I would like to see anything that shows higher income, not compared to average, but compared to white people. I am not your enemy Ty. I have a genuine curiosity.

Also, I feel the gratuitous cursing should be beneath someone entrusted to run this forum.
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Old 07-01-2022, 08:02 PM   #5
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I read 3 articles Flower posted about how exit polls show Trump voters, in primaries, were higher income than the national average. Higher than average misses the point. Then you said Trump voters are higher income than the average white people. I asked which of the several articles you linked show this. I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I would like to see anything that shows higher income, not compared to average, but compared to white people. I am not your enemy Ty. I have a genuine curiosity.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elect...on-exit-polls/

Trump won > $100K income by 12 points.
Biden won $50K > $100K by 15 points.
Biden won < $50K by 11 points.

I agree that's not the straight correlation I described (and shame on my for trying to describe a complex phenomenon in so few words), but the overall pattern is abundantly clear.

That was literally the first article I found with a Google search. I'm sure there are many, many others. If you have a genuine curiosity, then you will do some of your own Googling. If you are trolling, you will say you are curious to get other people to Google and post so you can poke holes.
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Old 07-01-2022, 08:12 PM   #6
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/elect...on-exit-polls/

Trump won > $100K income by 12 points.
Biden won $50K > $100K by 15 points.
Biden won < $50K by 11 points.

I agree that's not the straight correlation I described (and shame on my for trying to describe a complex phenomenon in so few words), but the overall pattern is abundantly clear.

That was literally the first article I found with a Google search. I'm sure there are many, many others. If you have a genuine curiosity, then you will do some of your own Googling. If you are trolling, you will say you are curious to get other people to Google and post so you can poke holes.
no one is arguing with you here Ty. But it has nothing to do with what Sebby claimed. You cannot compare to average income. The overwhelmingly black and unfortunately poorer people in Detroit, as an example, voted 96% for Biden. I know that number sounds like it can’t be, but oh, it is true. What sebby is saying is the lower end of income end of white voters ware the rapid Trump people. That’s all.

Oh, and it is fun when you accuse people of trolling but I read it as “I realize I am blabbing again when I should just scroll and not post.” You are not a dumb person but often play one here.
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Old 07-01-2022, 08:33 PM   #7
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What sebby is saying is the lower end of income end of white voters ware the rapid Trump people. That’s all.
That is hard to square with the actual data, which is that Biden won people with income of less than $100K by double digits, while Trump won people with income of more than that by double digits.

Take voters who make less than $50K. Biden won them 55-44. Assume, generously, that a fifth of those voters aren't white, and that every single of one of those voters went for Biden. Take away a fifth of Biden's 55%, and you end up with a tie. That's not rabid Trump people.
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Old 07-01-2022, 09:31 PM   #8
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That is hard to square with the actual data, which is that Biden won people with income of less than $100K by double digits, while Trump won people with income of more than that by double digits.

Take voters who make less than $50K. Biden won them 55-44. Assume, generously, that a fifth of those voters aren't white, and that every single of one of those voters went for Biden. Take away a fifth of Biden's 55%, and you end up with a tie. That's not rabid Trump people.
My gawd I made a lot of typos in that post. You know how college sorority sisters synch their periods? Maybe being around Adder so much is making me do more typos?
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That is hard to square with the actual data, which is that Biden won people with income of less than $100K by double digits, while Trump won people with income of more than that by double digits.

Take voters who make less than $50K. Biden won them 55-44. Assume, generously, that a fifth of those voters aren't white, and that every single of one of those voters went for Biden. Take away a fifth of Biden's 55%, and you end up with a tie. That's not rabid Trump people.
I never respond to the same post twice, but you do realize exit polls are closer to anecdotes (which flower criticized) than data?
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Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!

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That is hard to square with the actual data, which is that Biden won people with income of less than $100K by double digits, while Trump won people with income of more than that by double digits.

Take voters who make less than $50K. Biden won them 55-44. Assume, generously, that a fifth of those voters aren't white, and that every single of one of those voters went for Biden. Take away a fifth of Biden's 55%, and you end up with a tie. That's not rabid Trump people.
It's not about income. It's about older (mostly white) people and their fear.

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