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10-12-2023, 08:33 PM
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
When I said I side with Israel 100% it meant in regard to this current attack by Hamas. A significant number of people have asserted this attack was somehow Israel's fault, or justified.
This position appears to have merit superficially, but falls apart rather quickly under even a moderately rigorous assessment of the facts.
1. The Palestinians have objectively not been treated well by Israel. (This is significantly their own fault, but that's another argument we needn't reach here.)
2. This would naturally cause some form of resistance by Palestinians. Had Hamas sent missiles into Israel, or skirmished with settlers near its borders, it'd be a not unexpected form of warfare.
3. However, the behavior of Hamas, in raping, murdering, molesting corpses, and threatening to execute hostages and broadcast it online, is not warfare. It's so far outside the Geneva Convention one can't even liken it to accepted forms of warfare. It is identical to the actions of ISIS - a pathological death cult.
One cannot excuse Hamas because Hamas didn't just go too far. Hamas trampled the line so badly the atrocities of the IRA are distant specks in the rear view mirror. The question of who is at fault for attacking the other in Colonel-Kurtz-meets-the-SS manner isn't up for debate. Whatever Israel's sins are in regard to the Palestinians, what Hamas did was something so vile it renders the argument "Israel is at fault, too" inapplicable. It's not. No country could ever deserve what those Israeli people received.
And if you doubt that, watch some of the uncensored videos on Reddit.
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Based on what I posted and you quoted, do I think I disagree?
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10-12-2023, 08:37 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Based on what I posted and you quoted, do I think I disagree?
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No. Not at all. I wasn’t really writing to you. You asked an open question I thought deserved a more detailed explanation of what it means to be 100% in support of Israel here. I thought my earlier use of that phrasing was lazy.
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