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09-13-2024, 09:53 PM
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Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
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Originally Posted by Replaced_Texan
I think the ground game is going to be what wins this thing, and the Rs are in serious trouble in money, organization, and well, their candidate.
In 2020 in Texas, the Ds stayed home and called and texted for fear of Covid. The Rs were knocking on every fucking door they could. Biden lost in places he absolutely should not have because of that. It was a lesson we needed to learn, and hopefully we're overcorrecting on that. If there's anything good to come out of Beto running for three straight cycles is we have an outstanding ground game built up now, and a very comprehensive registration drive. Everyone seems to have been reinvigorated by the switch to Harris, and Allred is actually campaigning now. Which is of course hampered by our own government trying to do everything it can to prevent people from voting. I have no illusions that Harris will win Texas, but maybe Allred will beat Cruz, with the high profile endorsements form Texan by way of Wyoming Republicans and, well, everyone hates Ted Cruz.
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Josh Marshall had an interesting post the other day where he said that there are really two Trump campaigns. One is basically Trump himself, although Laura Loomer is along for the ride this week. He does his appearances and the debate and calls into Fox and other people (with the other campaign) may try to tell him what to say and what not to say, but good luck with that, because he's just doing his thing. It works to get his base excited, maybe, but.
The other campaign is the one run by his campaign managers, who are trying to run a more traditional campaign with TV spots, other advertising, a ground game, etc. Their efforts are focused on the swing states, so if you live somewhere else, you may not see them as much. They are very focused on talking about immigration and the economy, and on trying to avoid the issue of abortion. Trump himself does not always play along, which is of course a problem.
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09-17-2024, 05:13 PM
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Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Josh Marshall had an interesting post the other day where he said that there are really two Trump campaigns. One is basically Trump himself, although Laura Loomer is along for the ride this week. He does his appearances and the debate and calls into Fox and other people (with the other campaign) may try to tell him what to say and what not to say, but good luck with that, because he's just doing his thing. It works to get his base excited, maybe, but.
The other campaign is the one run by his campaign managers, who are trying to run a more traditional campaign with TV spots, other advertising, a ground game, etc. Their efforts are focused on the swing states, so if you live somewhere else, you may not see them as much. They are very focused on talking about immigration and the economy, and on trying to avoid the issue of abortion. Trump himself does not always play along, which is of course a problem.
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I'd say there's an overt effort by his campaign in Rust Belt states, which are not socially conservative or "in the cult," like the deep red states, to say, "Don't listen to him... Just pay attention to the economic policies." The pitch is effective, because no one in PA likes anything about him, but it does like his energy and economic policies.
However, it has limitations. That debate embarrassment is a bridge too far for many pocketbook voters. Even the most coldly rational tax voters I know had a "WTF was that?" reaction. The cats and dogs thing can never be unseen. If there were any question Trump and Vance were weird going into the debate, it's now settled.
I didn't watch much of it, but I did happen thru the family room while my wife had it on and I heard the comment live. The thing was surreal. For a moment. Then there's the shrug... "That's right. I forgot. He's fucking crazy."
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09-17-2024, 06:21 PM
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I am beyond a rank!
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
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Originally Posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I'd say there's an overt effort by his campaign in Rust Belt states, which are not socially conservative or "in the cult," like the deep red states, to say, "Don't listen to him... Just pay attention to the economic policies." The pitch is effective, because no one in PA likes anything about him, but it does like his energy and economic policies.
However, it has limitations. That debate embarrassment is a bridge too far for many pocketbook voters. Even the most coldly rational tax voters I know had a "WTF was that?" reaction. The cats and dogs thing can never be unseen. If there were any question Trump and Vance were weird going into the debate, it's now settled.
I didn't watch much of it, but I did happen thru the family room while my wife had it on and I heard the comment live. The thing was surreal. For a moment. Then there's the shrug... "That's right. I forgot. He's fucking crazy."
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Tax voters should be wary of his tariff promises.
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09-18-2024, 02:38 PM
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Re: Implanting Bill Gates's Micro-chips In Brains For Over 20 Years!
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Tax voters should be wary of his tariff promises.
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Tariffs only harm the little guy. Most tax voters can absorb them.
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