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notcasesensitive · 05-09-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
The Persians who live here call your city Tehrangeles. If the subset exists, that's the likely place on the planet it'd be found.

Or maybe Paris.

Speaking of this, I was out the other night with a friend of mine (not a close friend, but more than an acquaintance) and I asked him how he likes his new neighborhood (he moved somewhat recently to southern Beverly Hills). He got close to me and said something like "I like it okay, but... [quieter] there's too many Persians. At night it's like little Tehran over there."

I didn't take that opportunity to mention to him that my nieces are half Persian, though I probably should have. This is an acceptable group to be prejudiced against now? I mean, he's made homophobic sorts of statements in front of me before, even knowing that I have gay friends, so maybe he's all around clueless, but I wonder whether he would have felt so comfortable saying that stuff to me if the group had been blacks? I'm always curious what makes people think that these sorts of statements are okay.

Replaced_Texan · 05-09-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Speaking of this, I was out the other night with a friend of mine (not a close friend, but more than an acquaintance) and I asked him how he likes his new neighborhood (he moved somewhat recently to southern Beverly Hills). He got close to me and said something like "I like it okay, but... [quieter] there's too many Persians. At night it's like little Tehran over there."

I didn't take that opportunity to mention to him that my nieces are half Persian, though I probably should have. This is an acceptable group to be prejudiced against now? I mean, he's made homophobic sorts of statements in front of me before, even knowing that I have gay friends, so maybe he's all around clueless, but I wonder whether he would have felt so comfortable saying that stuff to me if the group had been blacks? I'm always curious what makes people think that these sorts of statements are okay.

At least they're aristocratic Persians.

Hank Chinaski · 05-09-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Speaking of this, I was out the other night with a friend of mine (not a close friend, but more than an acquaintance) and I asked him how he likes his new neighborhood (he moved somewhat recently to southern Beverly Hills). He got close to me and said something like "I like it okay, but... [quieter] there's too many Persians. At night it's like little Tehran over there."

I didn't take that opportunity to mention to him that my nieces are half Persian, though I probably should have. This is an acceptable group to be prejudiced against now? I mean, he's made homophobic sorts of statements in front of me before, even knowing that I have gay friends, so maybe he's all around clueless, but I wonder whether he would have felt so comfortable saying that stuff to me if the group had been blacks? I'm always curious what makes people think that these sorts of statements are okay.

Isn't it okay to feel uncomfortable living in a very ethnically homogenous area, if you aren't part of it? I actually would like living in a Persiany neighborhood, but I do understand that others like to be around their own kind. How do you think a heavily Persian neighborhood gets to be a heavily Persian neighborhood?

notcasesensitive · 05-09-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Isn't it okay to feel uncomfortable living in a very ethnically homogenous area, if you aren't part of it? I actually would like living in a Persiany neighborhood, but I do understand that others like to be around their own kind. How do you think a heavily Persian neighborhood gets to be a heavily Persian neighborhood?

I would assume that people flee when they realize that the little Persian women will be trying to feed them to death. If he thought it was an okay thing to be saying, why did he lower his voice?

Hank Chinaski · 05-09-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by notcasesensitive
If he thought it was an okay thing to be saying, why did he lower his voice?

his voice got low after he leaned in close to you, and you want to know why? what kind of top were you wearing?

Tyrone Slothrop · 05-09-2007, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
How do you think a heavily Persian neighborhood gets to be a heavily Persian neighborhood?

People come to this country and fall under the spell of American fast food. Too much McDonald's and Burger King and Arby's and Jack in the Box and -- poof -- you are heavily Persian.

dtb · 05-09-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
There's a bunch of them in Montreal. In fact, I think there's even an Iranian Jewish Congress-type organization there.

Two years ago was the first time I'd ever met an Iranian who wasn't Jewish. So far, that dude is the only one. And I've met a bunch of them.

Gattigap · 05-09-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
The Persians who live here call your city Tehrangeles. If the subset exists, that's the likely place on the planet it'd be found.

Or maybe Paris.

Apparently so. Others have educated me on this unusual concentration.

There are many Persian Jews in the United States, specifically in California and New York State. Many Persian Jews live in Beverly Hills, in Los Angeles. Estimates place the Persian community population as high as 25% in Beverly Hills, while others place it even higher (close to half or more). The large majority of Beverly Hills Persians adhere to Judaism [37], making them Persian-American Jews. A 2007 article stated that: "...about 8,000 of Beverly Hill's approximately 35,000 residents are of Iranian descent" [28]. On March 21, 2007, Jimmy Delshad, a Persian Jew who immigrated to the United States in 1958, became the mayor of Beverly Hills, elected with bilingual English-Farsi ballots [38], making him one of the highest ranking elected Iranian-American officials in the United States.

So, we West LA folks (and apparently dtb as well) are surrounded by Persian Jews. Surrounded, I tell you!

Gattigap

notcasesensitive · 05-09-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
At least they're aristocratic Persians.

It is good to know that one day my nieces will be rich enough to live in Beverly Hills if they so desire. Or at least halfway rich enough.

ltl/fb · 05-09-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
Apparently so. Others have educated me on this unusual concentration.

There are many Persian Jews in the United States, specifically in California and New York State. Many Persian Jews live in Beverly Hills, in Los Angeles. Estimates place the Persian community population as high as 25% in Beverly Hills, while others place it even higher (close to half or more). The large majority of Beverly Hills Persians adhere to Judaism [37], making them Persian-American Jews. A 2007 article stated that: "...about 8,000 of Beverly Hill's approximately 35,000 residents are of Iranian descent" [28]. On March 21, 2007, Jimmy Delshad, a Persian Jew who immigrated to the United States in 1958, became the mayor of Beverly Hills, elected with bilingual English-Farsi ballots [38], making him one of the highest ranking elected Iranian-American officials in the United States.

So, we West LA folks (and apparently dtb as well) are surrounded by Persian Jews. Surrounded, I tell you!

Gattigap

Did you move?

Gattigap · 05-09-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Did you move?

Well. Surrounded during working hours, I guess.

Hank Chinaski · 05-09-2007, 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by dtb
Two years ago was the first time I'd ever met an Iranian who wasn't Jewish. So far, that dude is the only one. And I've met a bunch of them.

translation: my kids' social activities are pretty much limited to BBYO and my friends and professional contacts are all from schul.

Tyrone Slothrop · 05-10-2007, 11:17 AM

Pakistan's nuclear authority has said there is no cause for concern after it published press adverts for information on "lost" radioactive material.

The adverts urged members of the public to inform officials if they found any "lost or stolen" radioactive material.

They were published in major Urdu-language newspapers in Pakistan.

A spokesman for the nuclear authority said that there was a "very remote chance" that nuclear materials imported 40-50 years ago were unaccounted for.

The Beeb

05-10-2007, 11:55 AM

So Tony Blair is stepping down at the end of June.

But what the fuck is this about leading "the greatest nation on earth"? Someone ought to fly out there for the day just to straighten his ass out.

Shape Shifter · 05-10-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by ironweed
So Tony Blair is stepping down at the end of June.

But what the fuck is this about leading "the greatest nation on earth"? Someone ought to fly out there for the day just to straighten his ass out.

I don't mind a little exaggeration. It's a retirement speech, so it's largely ceremonial. I don't see the point in rubbing their noses in it with something about leading "the ninth-best nation on this half of the continent."