Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by leagleaze
I don't know, you seem both smug and self satisfied, as well as generalizing about fat people. I don't know about you folks, but the only place I ever see fat people blaming society or saying it isn't their fault and their issue is on television.

I have never met a fat person who blames others for their state of being fat.

So what I find tiresome is your constant statements that people who are fat don't take responsibility for being fat, and also, that it is so simple to lose weight, they are just lazy. You know what, maybe it isn't so simple. If it were simple, we probably wouldn't have so many obese people.

Translation: I'm hungry.

TM

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
And yet, you feel compelled to mention your accident and the fact that it makes exercise difficult.

"Hey, I have allergies and bad genes, and those really make it hard for me to lose weight, but I don't blame those for my weight problem! Really!!!"

Physician, heal thyself.

I only mentioned it to make a point that I could blame somebody if I wanted to but I don't. Look, I have watched my father struggle with his weight for my entire life -- he has had years of success and years where he loses his determination rather than weight (something that he has feely admitted) and even years of very scary medical issues resulting, at least in part, from his weight issues. I have also watched my sister eat bad foods, drink too much beer and sit around a lot -- she is sensitive about her weight but won't do anything about it because she would rather insist that she is that way because she inherited our father's genes. Most overweight or out of shape people that I know will complain about their "love handles" while eating Ho-Hos. I feel for people who struggle with weight -- like my father -- because it certainly cannot be easy to resist tasty foods and get into exercising, but I don't feel bad for people who complain about their weight or make snide remarks about people who are not overweight but who won't do anything about it or who insist that it is someone else's fault that they can't stop eating Ho-Hos. My assistant is overweight -- she freely admits that she is that way because she loves food and doesn't want to work out any more than is necessary for her to maintain her current weight. She does not complain about her weight or blame anyone else for it. Nothing wrong with that.

My issue is not with weight, it is with responsibility. I would say the same thing about people who go to jail, on welfare or whatever and then try to blame the world for it -- it is just that the weight issue came up rather than one of those.


Edited to note that NotFromHere said it much better than me below. I hope you are comfy in my head -- shall I throw a bag of popcorn (low fat, of course) in the microwave to go with that Budweiser?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by taxwonk
I was talking about smug, self-satisfied ass clowns.*


I should note that although TM is smug, he is seldom satisfied, with himself or otherwise, and he is only rarely an ass clown.

I know what you were saying, wonk. Think: Airplane.

"Bad news from headquarters."

"Really? What is it?"

"It's a big building with lots of people in it, but that's not important right now."

TM

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by leagleaze
I don't know, you seem both smug and self satisfied, as well as generalizing about fat people. I don't know about you folks, but the only place I ever see fat people blaming society or saying it isn't their fault and their issue is on television.

I have never met a fat person who blames others for their state of being fat.

So what I find tiresome is your constant statements that people who are fat don't take responsibility for being fat, and also, that it is so simple to lose weight, they are just lazy. You know what, maybe it isn't so simple. If it were simple, we probably wouldn't have so many obese people.

I think it's the other way around. It's easy to get fat and even easier to stay fat. People who have never been fat don't know how hard it is to lose weight - maintaining your weight is so much easier. Your body fights you when you diet - which is what makes it so hard. The path of least resistance is status quo - and as you get older some weight creeps on. But being truly obese takes a lot of work, that's a lot of shopping and a lot of prep or a lot of drive through. You have to be obsessed with food to consume 12000 calories a day. On the other hand, there are those people in the "fat" category who are where they are because they're just lazy. There are others who are fat because they eat the wrong things. But I will agree with the people who say there are more people in the category of "making excuses." When your kids are 8, you can't call it "baby fat" anymore - you got fat while you were pregnant and kept eating for 2 for the next 10 years - that sort of thing. I hate that. Everyone knows what it takes to lose weight and everyone's looking for a shortcut. You either chose to lose weight or you don't, simple as that. You either accept your weight, make excuses for it, or do something about it.

Edited to add that I was trying to make a point, but it got lost in there. To see my point, please read Thrasher's post above.

[idle acts]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
realityblurred:

The new 24/7 reality TV cable network that will launch Jan. 15, 2004 will include "full frontal nudity" according to one of its founders. Reality Central, created by The Amazing Race 2's Blake Mycoskie and E! founder Larry Namer . . .

me:

I've met Blake before (he was of the brother/sister team from TX). I hope for his sake that this makes a big splash. Seems like a nice guy (friend of a friend). However, I'm sure the FB denizens will agree with me that he should be pushing harder for the full-on sex. C'mon Blake, stand up to the man!

I had a truly surreal encounter with Blake's mother the day that the network was announced. In response to my groans at the thought of 24/7 reality TV, she insisted that the network would have "high moral standards" and would not broadcast the "trashy" reality shows we have come to know and love, because Blake is a Christian. I guess nobody tells their mother everything, but yeesh.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

I know this is very presumptuous of me, but I would like to please have a one or two day moratorium on the fat talk. It is fucking neverending. Can we please come up with more creative ways to insult each other.

And yes, I am very hungry right now.

[W.W.L.D.]

Without fatties, there would be no
fat chicks in party hats


The name says it all, you smug fat fucker.

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I know this is very presumptuous of me, but I would like to please have a one or two day moratorium on the fat talk. It is fucking neverending. Can we please come up with more creative ways to insult each other.

And yes, I am very hungry right now.

Agreed. Rather than insult, I would like to point out that while watching Austrailian Rules Football last night (WTF, it was on ESPN and I had already watched O'Reilly earlier) I noticed that some of those guys are fucking hot. I totally did not understand the rules but who cares when buff hotties are galloping up and down the field? Anyone have a quick summary of the rules so I can feel better about myself and appreciate the game for more than the hot bods?

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I know this is very presumptuous of me, but I would like to please have a one or two day moratorium on the fat talk. It is fucking neverending. Can we please come up with more creative ways to insult each other.

And yes, I am very hungry right now.

Bitch.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
I know this is very presumptuous of me, but I would like to please have a one or two day moratorium on the fat talk. It is fucking neverending. Can we please come up with more creative ways to insult each other.

And yes, I am very hungry right now.

Sounds good to me, gwinky. Otherwise we are just baiting the JFF sock to come out of hiding. Let's see... we've discussed fake breasts recently. and religion. and marriage. and adultery.

Seems like what we are missing is some good old fashioned sex talk. Maybe we could bash TF some more on that front (not back)?

I am also hungry. So I am off to lunch (or out to lunch).

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Agreed. Rather than insult, I would like to point out that while watching Austrailian Rules Football last night (WTF, it was on ESPN and I had already watched O'Reilly earlier) I noticed that some of those guys are fucking hot. I totally did not understand the rules but who cares when buff hotties are galloping up and down the field? Anyone have a quick summary of the rules so I can feel better about myself and appreciate the game for more than the hot bods?

Here are the rules. Bunch of guys play a game on what looks like a football field. Try to kill the guy carrying the ball, or at least kick his ass. You can throw or kick the ball to some other schmuck if it looks like you are going to be killed. If that schmuck gets it over the line, you pick a number between 1 and 20 and that's your score. Then you kick the ball and whoever gets it starts running and the fun resumes. In other words, I have watched this thing many times and have tried to figure it out, but sadly I don't get the scoring or the strategy. Much like cricket.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Agreed. Rather than insult, I would like to point out that while watching Austrailian Rules Football last night (WTF, it was on ESPN and I had already watched O'Reilly earlier) I noticed that some of those guys are fucking hot. I totally did not understand the rules but who cares when buff hotties are galloping up and down the field? Anyone have a quick summary of the rules so I can feel better about myself and appreciate the game for more than the hot bods?

Were any of them fat?

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Seems like what we are missing is some good old fashioned sex talk. Maybe we could bash TF some more on that front (not back)?

Bash away. I may not be getting it in the ass, but I am getting it more than you.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Here are the rules. Bunch of guys play a game on what looks like a football field. Try to kill the guy carrying the ball, or at least kick his ass. You can throw or kick the ball to some other schmuck if it looks like you are going to be killed. If that schmuck gets it over the line, you pick a number between 1 and 20 and that's your score. Then you kick the ball and whoever gets it starts running and the fun resumes. In other words, I have watched this thing many times and have tried to figure it out, but sadly I don't get the scoring or the strategy. Much like cricket.

Yeah, kill the guy with the ball. I've discerned a few more, too. 1) The guy running with the ball has to bounce it off the ground (dribble it) ever 5 meters or so.
2) If he gets tackled, he has to give it up (which is why you throw it)
3) throw backwards only, but kick in any direction
4) if you catch a kick inside the 25m(?) box, you get a free kick on goal
5) six points between the two middle uprights; one point if it goes between the middle and side upright on either side
6) if you get a 6-pt goal, they bounce it up at midfield. A 1-pt goal means the team that gave up the goal gets the ball at its own goal.
7) they also bounce it up if the ball goes out of bounds.

But the rules really don't matter, because it's such a damn entertaining game.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Yeah, kill the guy with the ball. I've discerned a few more, too. also bounce it up if the ball goes out of bounds.

But the rules really don't matter, because it's such a damn entertaining game.

Yes. That's why the rules don't matter much. And it's much more entertaining than Arena football - which is stupid.