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Old 07-02-2007, 08:19 PM   #1531
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He does remain a convicted felon, on probation, and responsible for a criminal fine. The only thing he avoided was actual jail time.
Which is about right in my book.
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Old 07-02-2007, 08:33 PM   #1532
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"This decision to commute the sentence of a man who compromised our national security cements the legacy of an Administration characterized by a politics of cynicism and division, one that has consistently placed itself and its ideology above the law. This is exactly the kind of politics we must change so we can begin restoring the American people's faith in a government that puts the country's progress ahead of the bitter partisanship of recent years."

Um...how exactly did Scooter's false timeframe compromise national security?

Or was Obama referring to Armitage? Or Sandy Berger?
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:01 PM   #1533
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Which is about right in my book.
Wow, what an admission !
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:08 PM   #1534
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The opinions of the defenders of William Jefferson Clinton notwithstanding, perjury is indeed a crime.
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Obama:

"This decision to commute the sentence of a man who compromised our national security cements the legacy of an Administration characterized by a politics of cynicism and division, one that has consistently placed itself and its ideology above the law. This is exactly the kind of politics we must change so we can begin restoring the American people's faith in a government that puts the country's progress ahead of the bitter partisanship of recent years."

Um...how exactly did Scooter's false timeframe compromise national security?

Or was Obama referring to Armitage? Or Sandy Berger?
I believe President clinton made the precedent that if it is important enough for him to win, a President should compromise national security. Not that scooter or bush did anything close to what clinton did with China, but still that only makes the argument stronger.
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:34 PM   #1536
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Um...how exactly did Scooter's false timeframe compromise national security?
Apart from leaking classified information about Valerie Plame? Or are those childhood head injuries catching up with you?
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:48 PM   #1537
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Apart from leaking classified information about Valerie Plame? Or are those childhood head injuries catching up with you?
wait. wasn't the conviction for perjury? did the vast right wing conspiracy hide that he was really convicted for treason?

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Old 07-02-2007, 11:15 PM   #1538
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wait. wasn't the conviction for perjury?
Yes. Obama didn't say he was convicted for leaking -- he said he leaked. Which is true.
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Old 07-02-2007, 11:23 PM   #1539
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Yes. Obama didn't say he was convicted for leaking -- he said he leaked. Which is true.
every day my BFF. Penske, leaks next to agents of the republic of Vietnam. That doesn't mean anything was wrong unless there are judges or juries that say it was.

as an aside. Do you cite blogs in your legal briefs?
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:07 AM   #1540
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every day my BFF. Penske, leaks next to agents of the republic of Vietnam. That doesn't mean anything was wrong unless there are judges or juries that say it was.

as an aside. Do you cite blogs in your legal briefs?
Can you really pretend that there is nothing wrong, at all, with Penske's bathroom habits? I mean, you gotta watch the credability thing, right?
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:08 AM   #1541
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He does remain a convicted felon, on probation, and responsible for a criminal fine. The only thing he avoided was actual jail time.
It's a two part deal.
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Apart from leaking classified information about Valerie Plame? Or are those childhood head injuries catching up with you?
Are you fucking high? Do you really think Plame's "outing" that compromised a motherfucking thing about our national security? Because if you do I want $300 of what you're smoking, and I'll fly out to get it.

Valerie Plame was NOBODY. Nothing. This whole thing was a political charade and fucking joke and even the Democrats involved snickered and admitted as much. Political theatre. Now we're seeing the second to last act.
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eta: This shouldn't have been a surprise, but I have to say I'm more annoyed than I thought I'd be.
I suppose I should be more bothered about this than I am. I'm not really all that disturbed that Scooter won't do time. If I thought jail would have gotten hom to roll on his boss and his boss's boss, then I'd be pissed. But Scooter is probably more of a stand-up guy than Big Pussy. I don't think he'd have flipped.
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:21 AM   #1544
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The opinions of the defenders of William Jefferson Clinton notwithstanding, perjury is indeed a crime.
Punishable by what? A fine? Sounds like amnesty to me.
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:22 AM   #1545
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I suppose I should be more bothered about this than I am. I'm not really all that disturbed that Scooter won't do time. If I thought jail would have gotten hom to roll on his boss and his boss's boss, then I'd be pissed. But Scooter is probably more of a stand-up guy than Big Pussy. I don't think he'd have flipped.
I think going by "Scooter" as an adult merits jail time.
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