Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by evenodds
Cycling is purely an endurance sport like running and long distance swimming.

Which gets us back to the original point: This is a pretty stupid discussion.

Cycling is purely an endurance sport; does having the most endurance make you the "best athlete"? Is there any such thing, when so many sports call for so many different combinations of skill, speed, endurance, strength, etc.....?

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Clearly it wasn't funny, but jesus, this has to be the lamest response on this board in quite awhile.

At least get the picture to work before throwing stones.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
. . . .(even though I still kinda feel sorry for the dogs) . . . .

You pop open the truck cages and they all run to lay down on the traces in their spots. If you get them clipped in and don't tie the sled while you're getting ready, you look up to see the back of the sled bouncing away. They truly do seem to enjoy it. (Maybe because the rest of their time is so boring, I suppose.)

[Puft Daddy]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
They haven't improved parcheesi much either, or hopscotch for that matter ...

Obviously you haven't experienced Ultimate naked parcheesi, which is a significant improvement.

Whether techological improvements are a help or a hinderance in that game depends entirely on your personal point of view.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
This is a pretty stupid discussion.

I was wrong.

You're not wound tight at all.

(Edited to add: :kisscheek )

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I just pictured some champion jacks player in my head using the latest in jacks technology to beat a longtime rival.
TM

When the game of jacks was first invented, back by the cavemen, each jack was hand carved individually out of heavy stone. An individual jack weighed well over 50 pounds. Now, with technological advances, jacks are made out of such lightweight materials as titanium, so they are much easier to grasp and lift. That doesn't necessarily mean that players have an advantage over each other, but it has meant that the playing field has been leveled somewhat for those trying to get on the competitive jacks tours.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by bilmore
You pop open the truck cages and they all run to lay down on the traces in their spots. If you get them clipped in and don't tie the sled while you're getting ready, you look up to see the back of the sled bouncing away. They truly do seem to enjoy it. (Maybe because the rest of their time is so boring, I suppose.)

Like any dogs, they're genuinely happiest doing what we bred them to do for us and besides themselves with misery when we ask them to do anything else. Unfair genetic engineering, yes, but that's what we did. Thank God I came from a huge family, or our shepherd dogs would have gone insane without a huge passel of sheep to manipulate--instead, they just contented themselves moving us around.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Equally, no one wins a marathon wearing Keds.

Didn't Abibe Bekila (sp?) win an Olympic marathon or two wearing no shoes at all?

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Jacks.
TM

From a purely shallow fashion viewpoint, though, they've improved immeasurably. My mom's set were plain silver; a generation later, mine were cool brightly-colored anodized metal, which I later soldered into a very nifty bracelet.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by bilmore
I was wrong.

You're not wound tight at all.

Blow me, you grizzled old turnip.


:bang:

[mmm3587]

I'll weigh in on these issues:

I'm unconvinced that the fact that dogs like to do something prevents it from being inhumane. Many dogs, including dogs bred for digfighting, are bred to be vicious. They enjoy tearing the throats out of other animals. That doesn't make it appropriate or good for them to do it, in my moral judgment.

Similarly, dogs bred for pulling sleds in freezing temperatures "want" to do just that, but that desire is wrapped up in some weird evolutionary/breeding relationship with the desire to please their masters. It's not uncommon for a dog to die of exposure during the race, and many dogs will also run themselves to death, too. This is a result of centuries of breeding for these traits. If you think that a bunch of wild dogs want to run until they die or pull sleds in the freezing cold until they die, you're nuts. They want to fuck each other, eat and sleep.

My dog likes to tear up the trash and get into stuff that could hurt him. When he was a puppy, he used to eat his own shit, too. That doesn't mean those things are good for him.

As for bicycling, I'm a little surprised that people actually think that Lance Armstrong is the "greatest living athlete" or whatever people have said. His sport (which is certainly is, a sport) is of endurance and strategy. Skill is involved, but you can't claim that it engenders the kind of skill that professional soccer, baseball or basketball does. Or golf. To me, atheticism also includes extremity/eye coordination and the ability to sprint, jump and change direction quickly. Sports like football, soccer, baseball, basketball and hockey all have these in spades. In cycling, all you do is push pedals and slightly move your hands to change direction. I'm not belitting it, but I think that if you put, say, Alex Rodriguez, Ronaldo, Tiger Woods, Lance Armstrong and a bunch of similarly elite athletes from a wide variety of sports in a contest where they did all the sports, a lot of guys would come out ahead of Lance Armstrong. Or mayhe they would not, and then I would believe that he is the greatest living athlete. But the fact that he has dominated a sport like cycling, even when it is more so than other elite athletes have dominated their sports over a similar period (impressive as it is, especially given the cancer thing) does not, in and of itself, cause him to be the greatest living athlete.

Edited to change "common" to "uncommon" and to say, "Damn, somebody beat me to the breeding thing."

[bilmore]

Originally posted by mmm3587
If you think that a bunch of wild dogs want to run until they die or pull sleds in the freezing cold until they die, you're nuts. They want to fuck each other, eat and sleep.

If you think that I want to slog myself out of bed every morning and run down here to argue arcane and complicated legal issues with boring and pedantic lawyers just so I can bring enough frozen fish and dead squirrels back to the house to feed my pups, you're nuts. I just want to fuck women, eat, sleep, and lick my own crotch on good days.

So, if you think those damn dogs deserve a better life than do I, well, join PETA.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Blow me, you grizzled old turnip.


:bang:

No, you'll have to settle for this:

:e/o:

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by mmm3587
I'll weigh in on these issues:

I'm unconvinced that the fact that dogs like to do something prevents it from being inhumane. Many dogs, including dogs bred for digfighting, are bred to be vicious. They enjoy tearing the throats out of other animals. That doesn't make it appropriate or good for them to do it, in my moral judgment.

Similarly, dogs bred for pulling sleds in freezing temperatures "want" to do just that, but that desire is wrapped up in some weird evolutionary/breeding relationship with the desire to please their masters. It's not uncommon for a dog to die of exposure during the race, and many dogs will also run themselves to death, too. This is a result of centuries of breeding for these traits. If you think that a bunch of wild dogs want to run until they die or pull sleds in the freezing cold until they die, you're nuts. They want to fuck each other, eat and sleep.
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Hmm. I like to fuck, eat and sleep. Perhaps I should quit my job on the basis that it is inhumane for me to work. Or stop going to the gym because people have dropped dead from running.

I think you could be on to something here.

[leagleaze]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I'm always pissing off the establishment. You AND E/O?

I will never learn.

I'm establishment? Damn.