Fashion Board 1-08-04 through 02-03-04

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
You don't find him entertaining?

No, but I have that problem with everything aired on CNN, FOX, MSNBC, CNBC, and that other one. I find trepanation more appealing than the prospect of watching any of their programming. O'Reilly strikes me as particularly humorless and odious, though.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
As long as I get to use pari passu at least once when drafting the distribution waterfall, I am happy as a clam.

do you use it robustly? ever throw mutatis mutandis in your boilerplate?

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Tyrone_Slothrop
No, but I have that problem with everything aired on CNN, FOX, MSNBC, CNBC, and that other one.

Comedy Central?

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I'm going to have to send you a couple of back issues.

This is a useful phrase when you are saying "It is my understanding that you have conceded x, y, and z" because it invites them to concede again in a very nice way the thing you have rephrased. If you just say "you have conceded this, that and the other thing, am I right" you're more likely to get a "No, not quite" because you didn't use the softening introduction.

But most people overuse the "softening" intros to statements; they should only be used now and then, not be habitual. I'm sure you'll agree that I am right.

Welcome to the language board, everyone.

1. Soft polite openings invite possible hedging by the other side. Its much easier to say "Your understanding is incorrect" than "No, we did not conced/agree on that." I try to put concessions in the bag quickly and reiterate them until they are psychologically considered part of the settlement.

2. Its all subjective. So much depends on the personalities and the situation. I find as long as you make everyone look good, you'll get something you want. Best advice I ever got was "You'll know a great settlement because no one will be really happy at the end." No wonder litigators have substance abuse problems.

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
TM, if that is you, I think I can kick your ass (with or without a severed arm).

Couldn't be me. I don't care enough about any of this crap to argue too long over a definition. Besides, my client is huge and their form is rarely contested. My biggest negotiating position is, "My client's policy ties my hands on this issue. But I will note it and bring it to their attention." The other side always caves, unless it's some piece of shit bank in the middle of nowhere, party to some minor blocked account agreement, where the lawyer has only had one issue blow up in his face in the last 20 years he's been practicing which makes him so wary of that issue that he can't let it go (run-on sentence supreme!). Then, it gets bounced up above our heads on both sides and I get a call from him later on saying that his client, against his wishes, is willing to live with the risk of a check's funds being misapplied by that bank to someone else's account and not discovered until 18 months after the agreement has terminated (and they still want to be indemnified for it because it was an "error made in good faith," whatever that means).

Like I said, I just don't give a shit about any of this crap.

TM

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
do you use it robustly?

Oh my gosh. All this time I've been saying robustily. How embarrassing.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

Like I said, I just don't give a shit about any of this crap.


TM

For some reason this reminded me of something that happened when I practiced in Canada (and is hugely outable). We were dealing with a firm in western Canada. They sent us a huge document and in the middle of one of the huge run on miscellaneous provisions near the end was "Leafs suck!". They were apparently just seeing whether we actually read the document. Either that, or a junior was just having fun. Because we have such scintillating lives, that was the talk of the firm.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
For the last hour or so, I cannot get this image out of my head

That picture seems to be missing a tunnel.

[Anne Elk]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
For some reason this reminded me of something that happened when I practiced in Canada (and is hugely outable). We were dealing with a firm in western Canada. They sent us a huge document and in the middle of one of the huge run on miscellaneous provisions near the end was "Leafs suck!". They were apparently just seeing whether we actually read the document. Either that, or a junior was just having fun. Because we have such scintillating lives, that was the talk of the firm.

Did they agree to change it to "Leafs rule!"?

[Mister_Ruysbroeck]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I like to say "it cuts both ways" and "its a slippery slope". it combines the best of both worlds.

I know there's a joke in there somewhere.

[Oliver_Wendell_Ramone]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
The first time I saw [O'Reilly's] show I would have bet good money (as opposed to the bad kind) that he was some pompous-ass NYC lawyer before getting his own show.

Either that, or a nondiscript anchor in a mid-market city in the mighty PNW.

Still bummed I missed his exchange with Dan Savage.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Mister_Ruysbroeck

I know there's a joke in there somewhere.

All I can see is an annoying Gloria Estafan (Estephan? whichever) song, now running through my head.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by robustpuppy
Oh my gosh. All this time I've been saying robustily. How embarrassing.

I would have thought you'd go with robusty.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
They sent us a huge document and in the middle of one of the huge run on miscellaneous provisions near the end was "Leafs suck!".

Proof that Canadians hate trees.

[str8outavannuys]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Still on my Tivo. [brilliant Space Ghost ending]

Muchos Gracias, mi amigo. That is some strange stuff they were smoking when they wrote that, nu?