Waiting for Fitzgerald - Page 116

Shape Shifter · 10-05-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
the babyjesuschristsuperstar was a misunderstood and denounced rebel too. Like your boy Chavez.

You know, you won't be able to post nearly as much after you're nailed to a fucking cross. The voice recognition software is still so sketchy.

Penske_Account · 10-05-2005, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Once again, consider the possibility that if multiple people who you know not to be pussies are finding your message to be other than what (you claim to) intend, that the fault is in what you say, not in how they/we take it.

Perhaps you are failing to make disclaimers, or the level of vitriol you spout overwhelms any cursory disclaimers you might make.

Or, perhaps, you really do believe that Democrats are stupid, and not worthy of having an intellectual discussion with because, after all, well, Byrd. (Similar to Ann Coulter's view -- why talk to a liberal, unless you really have to?) I haven't met you in person, but frmo your comments here, I think this paragraph more accurately reflects what you really feel, and I regard your claims that "it's only about the party leadership" to be utter bullshit.

If I were thin-skinned, I would have the same feelings about the comments by Slave, Club, etc. Yet I don't. I can have rational discussions with them. I can have vitriolic discussions with them. Yet I've never come to the conclusion that either of them actually holds all Democrats in disgust and disdain. That is exactly the conclusion that I've reached about you.

But I'm sure it's just my fault. And Wonk's. And SS's. Right?

Apparently yes.

While, I do think the DNC and its political philoshopy is empty, anachronistic and detrimental to the country, but that doesn't mean that I think that they should be denied their first amendment rights or otherwise outlawed. And some of my best friends are dimwit......democrats. Obviously, or not, if you want to be intentionally dense, if I had such a visceral hatred of people who are registered democrats or socialists or greens etc. then I wouldn't live in a place where they outnumber me 6 to 1. I would move to Utah or someone in the south or Texas, no offence. to commune with my kind. I do have a visceral dislike of some of the parties leaders. I did recently bid on an auctioned lunch with Communist congressman Baghdad Jim McDermott, in order, if I had won, to air my grievances with his traitorous ways, yet otoh, I have friends who know him, love him, can't live without him and I respect and discourse with them, in spite of their misguided ways. What is so hard for you to understand about this?

Penske_Account · 10-05-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
You know, you won't be able to post nearly as much after you're nailed to a fucking cross. The voice recognition software is still so sketchy.

I realise that Shifter, but its enough to know that my sacrifice may be such to wash you clean of your sins. As it is I am already out $248.38 to PETA and that has not done the trick, but if a couple of nails through my apendages can save you, I am there for you.

The insurgency is Never Alone.

Not Bob · 10-05-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I would offer my Notbob sock for sale, but that's the only way I can get any Convo from the jeune filles, s'il vous plea.

Wow. Now I know how Sean Young felt in "Blade Runner."

Sidd Finch · 10-05-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
And who or what group would it be about? Murders? Evaders of responsibility to society? Rapists? Perjurers? Other high criminals and Felons? Racists? Terrorists? Communists? radical socialists? Oppressors of Freedom? People who drive 55 in the passing lane?

Democrats. (or "Dims", as you call us)

Penske_Account · 10-05-2005, 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by Not Bob
Wow. Now I know how Sean Young felt in "Blade Runner."

But then I'd rather be a killer than a victim.

Sidd Finch · 10-05-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
Apparently yes.

While, I do think the DNC and its political philoshopy is empty, anachronistic and detrimental to the country, but that doesn't mean that I think that they should be denied their first amendment rights or otherwise outlawed. And some of my best friends are dimwit......democrats. Obviously, or not, if you want to be intentionally dense, if I had such a visceral hatred of people who are registered democrats or socialists or greens etc. then I wouldn't live in a place where they outnumber me 6 to 1. I would move to Utah or someone in the south or Texas, no offence. to commune with my kind. I do have a visceral dislike of some of the parties leaders. I did recently bid on an auctioned lunch with Communist congressman Baghdad Jim McDermott, in order, if I had won, to air my grievances with his traitorous ways, yet otoh, I have friends who know him, love him, can't live without him and I respect and discourse with them, in spite of their misguided ways. What is so hard for you to understand about this?

If the tone and content of your posts were remotely consistent with the tone and content of this post, then I would have no problem understanding the message you (claim to) espouse. But this post has less than 1% of the vitriol that you normally spout, and is not directed at "dims" in general, and is not the penske-stock "I don't want to have a discussion with a 'dim', so I will post a picture of Byrd and tell the 'dim' that this is his moral conscience."

Ads for why you live in Seattle, I neither know nor care. You wouldn't be the first person who for reasons of job, weather, family, or sheer enjoyment of martyrdom chose to surround himself with people he hold in disdain and disgust. Which, again, is what your posts -- your normal posts, not the ones you write when you are called on your shit and have to clean it up -- suggest to me is your real world view.

Okay, I can probably assume you don't live in Seattle for the weather. Or the tittie-bars.

Secret_Agent_Man · 10-05-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Debating supremacy of competing Gods is like debating whether Spiderman would kick Batman's ass. That a large swath of this or any other country still engages in such debate disproves Evolution pretty soundly. No ape is that dumb.

Batman would kick his ass. Too much technology.

Hell, the Dark Knight defeated Superman when it came down to it -- though he had the help of the Green Arrow.

S_A_M

Penske_Account · 10-05-2005, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Democrats. (or "Dims", as you call us)

No, its not an absolute equation. Some are more guilty than others and some are kool-aided, and I absolve them and seek to offer love and guidance to help them empower themselve to the journey to the other side of righteousness. the babyjesi hates the sin but loves the sinners. Unless they are too far gone.

Take my hand Sidd, I'm here for you.

Gattigap · 10-05-2005, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
I would move to Utah or someone in the south or Texas, no offence. to commune with my kind.

Or Alabama.

The Sirens are calling, Penske. It's time for your to commune and bring your babyjesus home.

Penske_Account · 10-05-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
If the tone and content of your posts were remotely consistent with the tone and content of this post, then I would have no problem understanding the message you (claim to) espouse. But this post has less than 1% of the vitriol that you normally spout, and is not directed at "dims" in general, and is not the penske-stock "I don't want to have a discussion with a 'dim', so I will post a picture of Byrd and tell the 'dim' that this is his moral conscience."

Ads for why you live in Seattle, I neither know nor care. You wouldn't be the first person who for reasons of job, weather, family, or sheer enjoyment of martyrdom chose to surround himself with people he hold in disdain and disgust. Which, again, is what your posts -- your normal posts, not the ones you write when you are called on your shit and have to clean it up -- suggest to me is your real world view.

Okay, I can probably assume you don't live in Seattle for the weather. Or the tittie-bars.

1. Please find a post where I said I don't talk to people who are registered democrats? I don't believe I have ever said or posted I wouldn't talk to Kennedy or Byrd (although I have posted that two minutes in Hillary's presence would be two minutes too long).

2. The party leadership calls Byrd its conscience. You appear to be more vested in some sort of relationship with that party that you take far more personally than I take mine with the Republicans, to the extent that I have any relationship with the Republican party, why don't you take it up with them? My point, all along is, how can these people, these leaders, this DNC, have any moral authority on any issue from a leadership standpoint, when they a Klansman as their conscience.

3. The idea that I surround myself with people I loathe and disgust me is assinine and you know it.

4. The rain in Seattle is overrated.

Penske_Account · 10-05-2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by Gattigap
Or Alabama.

The Sirens are calling, Penske. It's time for your to commune and bring your babyjesus home.

As soon as you move to Paris , FR or Gaza, I'm there. sweet home alabama, indeed.

Sidd Finch · 10-05-2005, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
3. The idea that I surround myself with people I loathe and disgust me is assinine and you know it.

Oh, please. I'm sure you can find enough kindred souls, people who similarly despise Dems, even in Seattle. (After all -- they sell Ann Coulter's books there, don't they?)

You seem to think that I am not actually serious about this, but I am. What you post conveys a very different message that what you claim to intend.

You can consider that, or tell me I'm an idiot for failing to understand your meaning. I don't really care, and don't have any further interest in this discussion.

Penske_Account · 10-05-2005, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Oh, please. I'm sure you can find enough kindred souls, people who similarly despise Dems, even in Seattle. (After all -- they sell Ann Coulter's books there, don't they?)

Not since Slave left. I am not sure, I have never seen one of her books in person, although I understand that the bookstores tend to give her books less advantageous display than those of someone like Franken. But that's a market decision that would make sense here.

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch

You seem to think that I am not actually serious about this, but I am. What you post conveys a very different message that what you claim to intend.

I am not sure if you are serious or not, but I stand by the assertion that when taken as a whole, unless you are being wilfully dense or difficult, the intent of the message of my posts has been made clear. If you want to go back and cite the posts where I said I never talk to people who are registered democrats etc. I will be happy to reassess, otherwise the comments and context they are placed in should be clear. Certainly clearer than all the "Anyone who votes for bush is a fucking idiot" I have heard from non-party leader liberals over the last 5 years. Unless they meant and there is that level of bigotry, ignorance and prejudice in a large swath of the left wing. I tend to think not and apply a larger context to those statements.

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch

You can consider that, or tell me I'm an idiot for failing to understand your meaning. I don't really care, and don't have any further interest in this discussion.

I don't think you are an idiot, either intentuionally dense or difficult, or is that the same thing?

Hank Chinaski · 10-05-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by Penske_Account
1. Please find a post where I said I don't talk to people who are registered democrats? I don't believe I have ever said or posted I wouldn't talk to Kennedy or Byrd (although I have posted that two minutes in Hillary's presence would be two minutes too long).

2. The party leadership calls Byrd its conscience. You appear to be more vested in some sort of relationship with that party that you take far more personally than I take mine with the Republicans, to the extent that I have any relationship with the Republican party, why don't you take it up with them? My point, all along is, how can these people, these leaders, this DNC, have any moral authority on any issue from a leadership standpoint, when they a Klansman as their conscience.

3. The idea that I surround myself with people I loathe and disgust me is assinine and you know it.

4. The rain in Seattle is overrated.

you miss the point. Go back and reread the eggshell plaintiff case from torts. if you assult, you take the risk that you've assulted someone unexpectedly fragile. I'm with Sidd on this one.