Politics As Usual

[baltassoc]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
President Joseph National?

It used to be called Washington National Airport, now it's Reagan National Airport.

You remember Washington, right? Cherry tree, crossing the Delaware, Father of our Country, all that?

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by baltassoc
It used to be called Washington National Airport, now it's Reagan National Airport.

You remember Washington, right? Cherry tree, crossing the Delaware, Father of our Country, all that?

right, but what did he ever do for the airlines?

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
right, but what did he ever do for the airlines?

By helping to found this great country, with its capitalistic market economy and strong moral values that are better than anyone else's, he created the necessary preconditions for the Wright brothers and other innovative patriots to invent the airplane and improve on it until we led the world in air transportation.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
until we led the world in air transportation.

At least up to the point that Airbus started making better planes.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
At least up to the point that Airbus started making better planes.

With your criticism of American industry, you are undermining the war effort and endangering the flower of America's youth. Traitor.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
endangering the flower

I can't endanger the Flower. No one in Minnesota is in danger from terrorism.

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
I can't endanger the Flower. No one in Minnesota is in danger from terrorism.

That's what you think.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
At least up to the point that Airbus started making better planes.

Well, until Airbus became a better priced alternative because of heavy EU subsidies.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Well, until Airbus became a better priced alternative because of heavy EU subsidies.

Quite true. Aren't they practically owned by the EU rather than subsidized?

[SlaveNoMore]

ltl/fb
By helping to found this great country, with its capitalistic market economy and strong moral values that are better than anyone else's, he created the necessary preconditions for the Wright brothers and other innovative patriots to invent the airplane and improve on it until we led the world in air transportation.

That was my boy Alexander Hamilton.

Washington and Jefferson would still have us plowing fields for a living.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Quite true. Aren't they practically owned by the EU rather than subsidized?

That's what thje Seattle people tell me.

(Never discuss Airbus in a Seattle bar.)

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
And I don't think inevitability is the right word. Nothing was inevitable. Another leader besides Gorbachev, different events, and something different might have happened.

True, but Gorbachev didn't really have any choice. And remember, he came to office to save communism, not to reform it. Making the jump was very adept, politically, but let's not pretend that this had been his intent all along.

efs

[ltl/fb]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
That was my boy Alexander Hamilton.

Washington and Jefferson would still have us plowing fields for a living.

Yes, but he needed them for the war effort. Big tent, etc. etc.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Quite true. Aren't they practically owned by the EU rather than subsidized?

They're nominally a private consortium. And, they'll point out that Boeing is heavily subsidized by DoD. It's pretty hard to disentangle.

My industry source tells me that one actual quality reason that allowed airbus to gain market share is that their standard cabin on the A320 series (I think that's it--the 737/757 equivalent) is approximately 10" wider than the one used by Boeing, which means slightly wider seats or more cabin room generally.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
They're nominally a private consortium. And, they'll point out that Boeing is heavily subsidized by DoD. It's pretty hard to disentangle.

My industry source tells me that one actual quality reason that allowed airbus to gain market share is that their standard cabin on the A320 series (I think that's it--the 737/757 equivalent) is approximately 10" wider than the one used by Boeing, which means slightly wider seats or more cabin room generally.

One hopes that the 7E7 will even things out on that score. From what I can tell, the airlines are practically swooning over it, and if the 20% greater fuel efficiency thing is true, I think Boeing is going to have a lot of good years on the commercial side.