All Hank, all the time. - Page 120

Sidd Finch · 07-13-2006, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
ummmm, wonk said Israel wants continued war- you don't think leaving Gaza was sort of, you know, evidence against that? what type law do you practice again- does it involve proving stuff?

oh, and nice "equate israel with the Nazis" reference. I do hope Wonk and the more thoughtful chastise you, at least on PM.

Must..... control..... chaaaaannnnnnggggeeeeeeee

ARGH!!!!!!

I am agreeing with Hank here. Lord, have mercy.

Sidd Finch · 07-13-2006, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
right- and the Palis terms are "peace because all the Jews in the area are dead." it kinda makes it hard to work through-

stated more nicely- Israel stood up to its extremists and gave back Gaza- and the brave Pali resposne is............

aaaagggghhhhhh!!!!!! The paaaaaaiiiiiinnnnnn!!!!.

I agree with Hank, again.

Sidd Finch · 07-13-2006, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Yeah, it's hard not to say that. I'm exhausted from listening to this story, and part of me hopes that all involved will spend themselves into penury on their lawyers.

Man, this is even weirder than me agreeing with Hank. Gatti, where is your joyful, hand-rubbing glee?

Tyrone Slothrop · 07-13-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
right- and the Palis terms are "peace because all the Jews in the area are dead." it kinda makes it hard to work through-

stated more nicely- Israel stood up to its extremists and gave back Gaza- and the brave Pali resposne is............

I agree that the Palistinian terms have not been reasonable. But that doesn't make Israel's best offer a fair one.

You're right -- I didn't see a brave Palistinian response to that.

ih8dalaw · 07-13-2006, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Yeah, it's hard not to say that. I'm exhausted from listening to this story, and part of me hopes that all involved will spend themselves into penury on their lawyers.

Interesting choice of lawyers for Plame and Wilson.......

Q:

What do Proskauer Rose; Cahill Gordon; and Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle have in common?

SPOILER SPACE

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

A:

They’re all tough places for associates to work, according to the American Lawyer magazine. The firms finished at the bottom of the magazine’s 2005 mid-level associate satisfaction survey, in which 160 firms were ranked.

A pair of muckraking publicity whore scumbags chooses a shithouse of scumsucking slavemaster douchebag GreedyPartners to do their bidding. Nice. Real effin' nice. I pray for my brothers and sisters in associate hell to be freed from that bullshit! Why Plated, why have you foresaken them??

Sexual Harassment Panda · 07-13-2006, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ih8dalaw
Interesting choice of lawyers for Plame and Wilson.......

Q:

What do Proskauer Rose; Cahill Gordon; and Curtis, Mallet-Prevost, Colt & Mosle have in common?

A:

They’re all tough places for associates to work, according to the American Lawyer magazine. The firms finished at the bottom of the magazine’s 2005 mid-level associate satisfaction survey, in which 160 firms were ranked.

A pair of muckraking publicity whore scumbags chooses a shithouse of scumsucking slavemaster douchebag GreedyPartners to do their bidding. Nice. Real effin' nice. I pray for my brothers and sisters in associate hell to be freed from that bullshit! Why Plated, why have you foresaken them??

Um, I believe you want that other board. Do you need the URL?

Hank Chinaski · 07-13-2006, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ironweed
Nobody wants "continued war," dimwit. People want land they think is theirs.

which for the Palis (again, this is short hand becasue I can't spell- no disrespect) is all of Israel even though they had no country before. Point is- is there a solution? Israel maybe gives up some land, Palis live with that? no. because their solution is that they get back all "their" land.

Fuck. even you must recognize "negotiation" means both sides giving in.

Hank Chinaski · 07-13-2006, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
aaaagggghhhhhh!!!!!! The paaaaaaiiiiiinnnnnn!!!!.

I agree with Hank, again.

son, you may have a future.....in pawn shop law (we're are strictly store-side at my shop- no sellers represented)

taxwonk · 07-13-2006, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Must..... control..... chaaaaannnnnnggggeeeeeeee

ARGH!!!!!!

I am agreeing with Hank here. Lord, have mercy.

Here, let me test your allegiance to Hank. Find Israel's desire for peace in their statement that they are going to "bomb Lebanon back to 1982."

Israel gave up Gaza because they were forced to by political exigencies, not because they felt it would lead to peace.

taxwonk · 07-13-2006, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
which for the Palis (again, this is short hand becasue I can't spell- no disrespect) is all of Israel even though they had no country before. Point is- is there a solution? Israel maybe gives up some land, Palis live with that? no. because their solution is that they get back all "their" land.

Fuck. even you must recognize "negotiation" means both sides giving in.

Let's not forget that Israel wasn't a country until some Zionist terrorists decided to blow up the King David Hotel. It was land that was not-very-peacefully shared by the Arabs and the Jews (and a few Christians) for millenia before the Europeans decided to carve it up arbitrarily.

We're on the same side, here Hank. We're both very Pro-Israel. The difference between us is that I'm willing to admit I'm backing them because they're our son of a bitch.

Spanky · 07-13-2006, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
Here, let me test your allegiance to Hank. Find Israel's desire for peace in their statement that they are going to "bomb Lebanon back to 1982."

Israel gave up Gaza because they were forced to by political exigencies, not because they felt it would lead to peace.

From a human rights (and international rights) standard Israel should either give up the West Bank and Gaza or incorporate them and give all the residents the right to vote. The excuse that they need to control them for their own defense is the same excuse Russia used for holding on to Eastern Europe. You can't subject a whole land and its people for your own self defense. However, if they give Gaza and the West Bank self determination those areas will become immediate enemies bent on the destruction of Israel (because half of the people in those territories are either direct descendents of or are refugees from Israel proper). They are clearly going to want their homes back. If Israel incorporates the West Bank and Gaza then Israel will cease to be a Jewish majority state.

Actually if they really wanted to follow international law they should let all the Palestinians return to their homeland. I believe that 80 percent of the Jews in Israel are immigrants where almost all the Palestinian refugees in the camps are either from Israel proper or are direct descendents of people from Israel proper. However, that would obviously spell the end for Israel also. If they Arabs became a majority with a right to vote they would start kicking all the Jews out (or maybe worse).

So for a permanent solution to the problem, Israel is faced with the decision of either giving up and everyone return to the countries they came from (if that was even possible) or they need to expel all the Arabs out of the West Bank and probably Gaza (from a strategic stand point Israel is really not defensible without the West Bank).

Of course both of those solutions are not an option. So the place is going to remain totally screwed up for generations and that is why I like to pretend that the whole place just doesn't exist.

Hank Chinaski · 07-13-2006, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk

Israel gave up Gaza because they were forced to by political exigencies,

I call bullshit.

Tyrone Slothrop · 07-13-2006, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I call bullshit.

Because it was too sandy?

Hank Chinaski · 07-14-2006, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by taxwonk
Let's not forget that Israel wasn't a country until some Zionist terrorists decided to blow up the King David Hotel. It was land that was not-very-peacefully shared by the Arabs and the Jews (and a few Christians) for millenia before the Europeans decided to carve it up arbitrarily.

We're on the same side, here Hank. We're both very Pro-Israel. The difference between us is that I'm willing to admit I'm backing them because they're our son of a bitch.

King David? What country was he king of?

Not Bob · 07-14-2006, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spanky
Of course both of those solutions are not an option. So the place is going to remain totally screwed up for generations and that is why I like to pretend that the whole place just doesn't exist.

Me too. Although if the folks in South Africa can get along reasonably well today, there's a bit of hope for Israel and the Palestinians, no?

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a Mideast version of Nelson Mandela available. Rabin might have made it work, but he ain't around anymore (and who killed him?), and the Palestinian leadership is even less likely to have such a person in their ranks.