Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[SlaveNoMore]

taxwonk
Now that's what I call stimulating political discourse.

Say this aloud three times every time you feel compelled to abbreviate the "President of the United States" as "Shrub."

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Adder
Wait. So you are saying they are right that things are a mess.

What then, is your quibble with them.

No. I don't think they are a mess. I certainly don't think they are optimal either, and the Administration has some blame for that, but nothing like this is expected to go of as expected of planned. There is a lot of bad news coming out of Iraq, but IMHO, the good far outweighs the bad.

My quibble is that, in a time of war, instead of critisizing the president's every move (and for some, almost celebrating every misjudgement), they should be offering support. This is not to say that there shouldn't be honest policy objections, but the manner in which they are voiced should be far different than today. Comparing the president to Hitler, saying that the war was hatched in Texas for political purposes, comparing him to a Nazi, demeaning our allies, etc. How can anyone take a party like that seriously. And (to anticipate Ty) it is not just the wingnuts. It is the leaders and nearly all of the DEM presidential nominees, except for Lieberman, who to me is a responsble politician (with the exception of when he had to whore for gore in the 2000 election).


This would not be happening to Roosevelt in 1943.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
no I'm saying the "never met you" part was irrelevent to begin with.

STOP STEALING MY POINT. If Slave's "I'm going to make this statement true at whatever cost" succeeds, Cheney did more than utter an irrelevancy --- it was a complete non sequitur. But that's only if you agree to contort it to make it literally true. For Cheney to have considered it responsive to the point HE was trying to make on national television, it would have to be untrue.

You're working pretty hard to make Cheney's best line of the evening a waste of everyone's time. The far more plausible explanation is that he meant what I'm saying he meant, and that he was WRONG. When you hear the thunder of hooves, think "horses," not "zebras." I've thought you were many things, but stupid was never one of them.

[SlaveNoMore]

Atticus Grinch
You're working pretty hard to make Cheney's best line of the evening a waste of everyone's time. The far more plausible explanation is that he meant what I'm saying he meant, and that he was WRONG. When you hear the thunder of hooves, think "horses," not "zebras." I've thought you were many things, but stupid was never one of them.

Dissent.

Cheney's best line of the night, bar none, was:

Now if [Kerry/Edwards] couldn't stand up to the pressures that Howard Dean represented, how can we expect them to stand up to Al Qaida?

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Okay. Explain Ashcroft.

Originally posted by bilmore
He just doesn't like tits.

An anachronism that is decidedly un-American.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Did you spend 2002 under a rock?

Originally posted by bilmore
I can't tell you how unintentionally funny this is.

Really? You mean we have to wait for someone to leak it to Novak?

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by sgtclub
Much of GWB's agenda was passed with moderate democractic support. Hell, Kerry and Edwards even voted for some of it.

Does this mean that Cheney lied in the debate when he said the failure to build relationships across the aisle was one of the great disappointments of the Administration?

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Does this mean that Cheney lied in the debate when he said the failure to build relationships across the aisle was one of the great disappointments of the Administration?

If you read the whole thread, I was referring to pre-2002 elections.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
He was also technically "elected to" the Senate, since it is against the Constitution to seat a dead guy.

And you didn't even file a lawsuit about it? Wow, you guys really do hate judges.

[sgtclub]

Bush left off ballot in Mo. county

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...rror&printer=1

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You see, it's stupidity like this comment of yours that cause people to scroll past you.

The software available to the mods must be pretty advanced. I have to type my replies manually.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
"You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear."

When I posted this quote on the old boards three years ago, Taxwonk called me an anti-semite. Sometimes being on the cultural vanguard sucks.

[Atticus Grinch]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If AG doesn't STP, he's going to ask whether San Francisco police can charge the gun manufacturers with inciting a riot.

If he does STP, he'll hit the same point, but with some learned religious references thrown in.

Don't tell me how to be.

[Atticus Grinch]

Green voters watch more porn.

[SlaveNoMore]

Atticus Grinch
When I posted this quote on the old boards three years ago, Taxwonk called me an anti-semite. Sometimes being on the cultural vanguard sucks.

You should have done it so:

You do know, that the
Nazis had pieces of flair
they made the Jews wear