A disgusting vat of filth that no self-respecting intelligent person would wade into.

[SlaveNoMore]

Gattigap
Looks like under SD law, the governor would appoint someone for a short period, but that a new election would be held in 90 days or so to fill the spot for the remainder of the term. Um, maybe.

A bit premature for all the "sky is falling" lefty blogs, no?

It's only a matter of hours before the folks at KOS accuse rove of injecting Johnson with Polonium 210.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by sgtclub

This is getting ridiculous - Do these guys have a claim for malicious prosecution yet?

It's been ridiculous for some time. There's been no new evidence except regarding the prosecution's ever thinner case. I predict the case gets dropped during a very quiet period, perhaps over christmas.

[Spanky]

The Real Hanukah: A Celebration of the Religious Right By Michael Medved 1/13/06 townhall.com

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/M...eligious_right

Who are the bad guys in the Hanukah story? And who are the good guys?

These are serious questions with serious consequences.

Most Jews (and certainly most Christians) dismiss the winter holiday as a trivial, feel-good festival about candles, potato pancakes, spinning tops (dreidls),and eight nights of gifts, without coming to terms with its serious, relevant and distinctly uncomfortable messages. While frequently (and fatuously) described as a “celebration of tolerance,” Hanukah is more properly designated as an annual re-dedication to the values of the Religious Right.

No wonder that so many American Jews (with their reflexive, often ignorant liberal instincts) refuse to acknowledge the real Hanukah and its politically incorrect messages. In last week’s Washington Post, a householder from Potomac, Maryland named Kenneth Nechin proudly explained that his home attempts to honor the “deeper meaning” of the holiday: “Religious tolerance, the freedom to practice religion, minorities overcoming majorities who are trying to take your rights away.”

Actually, far from celebrating “diversity” or “tolerance” or “respect for every faith,” Hanukah (the name means “dedication” in Hebrew) marks a singular display of intolerance— when religious zealots, exalting the values of “that old time religion,” came into the Temple in Jerusalem and drove out all alternate, “creative” forms of worship. In the “For the Miracles” (Al HaNissim) prayer recited at least three times a day by religious Jews during the eight days of the festival, we salute this uncompromising assertion of absolute truth: “Your children came to the Holy of Holies of Your House, cleansed Your Temple, purified the site of your Holiness and kindled lights in the Courtyards of Your Sanctuary.” No, the fervently faithful rebels did not assign a special area for other religious impulses as part of some ancient commitment to multiculturalism.

The confusion and ignorance about the Jewish winter holiday stem in part from unreliable, inconsistent information about the “wicked oppressors” whose overthrow has been celebrated in this season for more than 2000 years. The Washington Post article, for instance, misleadingly summarized Hanukah as “a Jewish holiday celebrating the ancient victory of the Maccabees over the Syrians.” In countless articles and discussions about the origins of the festival, the enemies of the Jewish faith are variously identified as “Syrians,” “Greeks,” “Assyrians” (totally wrong!), “Assyro-Greeks,” “Syro-Greeks,” and so forth. The inability to come up with a clear answer about who fought to suppress the Judean rebels in 165 B.C. makes it harder to take seriously the history behind the holiday and increases the likelihood that even serious people will focus instead on pleasant but puerile aspects of contemporary celebration.

Actually, Hanukah is hardly unique among religious holidays in highlighting evil-doers whose schemes and cruelty God helps to overcome. The corresponding Christmas celebration recalls the tyrannical King Herod, who wants to kill the Christ child at the very moment of his birth and ends up slaughtering “all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under…” (Matthew, II.16). No one experiences confusion or doubt in identifying the chief bad guy (Pharaoh) of the Passover holiday, or the various wicked figures (Roman authorities and the High Priest’s Temple establishment) in the Easter story. In the Jewish festival of Purim (rightly viewed as a parallel “deliverance” celebration to Hanukah) the Book of Esther unequivocally specifies “the evil Haman” as the enemy who plans to destroy the people of Israel.

Ironically, the historical sources for the Hanukah story are far more authoritative, substantive and complete than any non-Biblical records of the Exodus, the tale of Esther and Mordecai, or even the Nativity or Crucifixion. The Hasmonean Revolt – in which Jewish “Puritans” (and that would be an appropriate designation) won an unlikely triumph against those who embraced or accommodated “enlightened” Greek culture— looked like a significant event even at the time and numerous contemporary historians took note.

Two centuries earlier, Alexander the Great had swept through the Middle East on his way to conquering most of the civilized world. At the time of his death (323 B.C.) three of his Greek-Macedonian generals divided his empire and one of them, Seleucus (originally known as Nicator) took control of Babylonia and the surrounding territory (eventually including Judea). His successors built a powerful, cosmopolitan capital city (Antioch) in present-day Turkey, but it’s confusingly identified as the center of the ancient, Seleucid (named after Seleucus, obviously) kingdom of Syria.

This kingdom, by the way, bears no connection to current day Syrians – who are proudly and unequivocally Arab, and whose ancestors didn’t arrive in the area until 800 years after the events of the Hanukah story. Silly contemporary comments that try to parallel present-day battles of “Israelis and Syrians” to similar struggles between “Israelites and Syrians” in the second century B.C., count as utterly dishonest and off the mark.

In any event, the great-great grandson of Alexander’s general Seleucus was a megalomaniac named Antiochus IV, who had himself proclaimed “Antiochus Epiphanes” – the Illustrious, or Magnificent. He felt so intoxicated with the glories of humanistic Greek culture (which had come to dominate most of the civilized world) that he determined to crack down on his retrograde Jewish subjects with their old-fashioned, monotheistic faith and stubbornly anachronistic folkways. Like today’s secularists, the followers of Antiochus took special aim at the rite of circumcision – which, to the enlightened Hellenists, unforgivably marred the “divine perfection” of the human form. Wealthy children of the Judean elite embraced up-to-date Greek culture so completely that they even submitted to profoundly painful operations to hide the impact of their infant circumcisions, allowing them to wrestle nude at the gymnasium without embarrassment. That nude wrestling suggested another area of impassioned disagreement between the broad-minded humanists of that era and their implacable opponents on the Religious Right: the conservatives and puritans who eventually rebelled against the assimilationist establishment, refused to abandon their old, judgmental, intolerant and restrictive attitude toward the male homosexuality so casually and proudly accepted in Greek-influenced societies.

Eventually, a hillbilly priest (Mattathias) from the backwoods town of Modin led his five war-like sons in a bloody revolt against the compromises and betrayals and degeneracy of the local Jewish establishment. The bad guys of the Hanukah story weren’t so much foreign occupiers as they were indigenous traitors who junked the demanding faith of their forefathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, for the trendy, hedonistic, easy-going relativism of Aristotle, Alexander and Antiochus. By placing Greek gods in the Temple in Jerusalem, the Hellenist Jewish leadership didn’t try to exclude or prevent the old worship – they meant to open up the Holy of Holies to worshipers of every nation and of every deity in a grand celebration of diversity.

Anyone who takes even ten minutes to read the actual history of the Maccabean revolt will see similarities between its priestly leaders (most conspicuously, the great commander Judah Maccabee, son of Mattathias) and today’s prominent figures in the Religious Right. The Maccabees insisted on re-affirming ultimate right and wrong, and saw their battle as part of a timeless struggle of good and evil. They demanded a return to the old ways, to the authentic, uncompromising laws of God and the Torah, and they felt only contempt for the Hellenizing modernists who fought against them. The rebels represented the common people – the poor and the humble artisans and the struggling farmers who remained loyal to the ancient faith – while their enemies represented the pampered urban elites, over-educated in the cosmopolitan ways of Judea’s Greek overlords. Again, the basic prayer of the holiday makes clear the essential nature of the struggle, “In the days of Mattathias….and his sons, when the wicked Greek kingdom rose up against your people Israel to make them forget Your Torah and compel them to stray from the statutes of Your Will, You in Your great mercy stood up for them in the time of their distress. You took up their grievance, judged their claim, and avenged their wrong. You delivered the strong into the hands of the weak, the many into the hands of the few, the impure into the hands of the pure, the wicked into the hands of the righteous, and the wanton into the hands of the diligent students of Your Torah.”

In other words, the Religious Right of ancient Judea won a startling victory and we’re meant to celebrate its lessons some 2200 years after the fact.

At an odd moment of history when many leaders of the Jewish people are again displaying the ancient, Hellenistic fascination with homosexuality, humanism, relativism and diversity, it’s not surprising that many left-leaning sects and organizations want to hide the genuine themes of Hanukah. But at a moment when both America and Israel face crucial cultural conflicts that echo the holiday’s ancient struggles, those who know the truth need to broadcast the light of the long-ago miracles and affirm our annual rededication to authentic and undiluted faith.

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Besides, I'm _very_ glad he was never on the Supreme Court.
So, you were a big supporter of almost-Justice Miers? Not my recollection.

S_A_M

Maybe my history is off, but because Bork was turned down didn't we get Kennedy? You prefer Kennedy to Bork?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Doro.

I believe "Doro" died of cancer before that was even possible.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Spanky
Maybe my history is off, but because Bork was turned down didn't we get Thomas? You prefer Thomas to Bork?

Kennedy. I prefer Kennedy to Bork. Not that you asked.

[Adder]

Originally posted by Spanky
The Real Hanukah: A Celebration of the Religious Right By Michael Medved 1/13/06 townhall.com

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/M...eligious_right

Who are the bad guys in the Hanukah story? And who are the good guys?

These are serious questions with serious consequences.

Most Jews (and certainly most Christians) dismiss the winter holiday as a trivial, feel-good festival about candles, potato pancakes, spinning tops (dreidls),and eight nights of gifts, without coming to terms with its serious, relevant and distinctly uncomfortable messages. While frequently (and fatuously) described as a “celebration of tolerance,” Hanukah is more properly designated as an annual re-dedication to the values of the Religious Right.

No wonder that so many American Jews (with their reflexive, often ignorant liberal instincts) refuse to acknowledge the real Hanukah and its politically incorrect messages. In last week’s Washington Post, a householder from Potomac, Maryland named Kenneth Nechin proudly explained that his home attempts to honor the “deeper meaning” of the holiday: “Religious tolerance, the freedom to practice religion, minorities overcoming majorities who are trying to take your rights away.”

Actually, far from celebrating “diversity” or “tolerance” or “respect for every faith,” Hanukah (the name means “dedication” in Hebrew) marks a singular display of intolerance— when religious zealots, exalting the values of “that old time religion,” came into the Temple in Jerusalem and drove out all alternate, “creative” forms of worship. In the “For the Miracles” (Al HaNissim) prayer recited at least three times a day by religious Jews during the eight days of the festival, we salute this uncompromising assertion of absolute truth: “Your children came to the Holy of Holies of Your House, cleansed Your Temple, purified the site of your Holiness and kindled lights in the Courtyards of Your Sanctuary.” No, the fervently faithful rebels did not assign a special area for other religious impulses as part of some ancient commitment to multiculturalism.

The confusion and ignorance about the Jewish winter holiday stem in part from unreliable, inconsistent information about the “wicked oppressors” whose overthrow has been celebrated in this season for more than 2000 years. The Washington Post article, for instance, misleadingly summarized Hanukah as “a Jewish holiday celebrating the ancient victory of the Maccabees over the Syrians.” In countless articles and discussions about the origins of the festival, the enemies of the Jewish faith are variously identified as “Syrians,” “Greeks,” “Assyrians” (totally wrong!), “Assyro-Greeks,” “Syro-Greeks,” and so forth. The inability to come up with a clear answer about who fought to suppress the Judean rebels in 165 B.C. makes it harder to take seriously the history behind the holiday and increases the likelihood that even serious people will focus instead on pleasant but puerile aspects of contemporary celebration.

Actually, Hanukah is hardly unique among religious holidays in highlighting evil-doers whose schemes and cruelty God helps to overcome. The corresponding Christmas celebration recalls the tyrannical King Herod, who wants to kill the Christ child at the very moment of his birth and ends up slaughtering “all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under…” (Matthew, II.16). No one experiences confusion or doubt in identifying the chief bad guy (Pharaoh) of the Passover holiday, or the various wicked figures (Roman authorities and the High Priest’s Temple establishment) in the Easter story. In the Jewish festival of Purim (rightly viewed as a parallel “deliverance” celebration to Hanukah) the Book of Esther unequivocally specifies “the evil Haman” as the enemy who plans to destroy the people of Israel.

Ironically, the historical sources for the Hanukah story are far more authoritative, substantive and complete than any non-Biblical records of the Exodus, the tale of Esther and Mordecai, or even the Nativity or Crucifixion. The Hasmonean Revolt – in which Jewish “Puritans” (and that would be an appropriate designation) won an unlikely triumph against those who embraced or accommodated “enlightened” Greek culture— looked like a significant event even at the time and numerous contemporary historians took note.

Two centuries earlier, Alexander the Great had swept through the Middle East on his way to conquering most of the civilized world. At the time of his death (323 B.C.) three of his Greek-Macedonian generals divided his empire and one of them, Seleucus (originally known as Nicator) took control of Babylonia and the surrounding territory (eventually including Judea). His successors built a powerful, cosmopolitan capital city (Antioch) in present-day Turkey, but it’s confusingly identified as the center of the ancient, Seleucid (named after Seleucus, obviously) kingdom of Syria.

This kingdom, by the way, bears no connection to current day Syrians – who are proudly and unequivocally Arab, and whose ancestors didn’t arrive in the area until 800 years after the events of the Hanukah story. Silly contemporary comments that try to parallel present-day battles of “Israelis and Syrians” to similar struggles between “Israelites and Syrians” in the second century B.C., count as utterly dishonest and off the mark.

In any event, the great-great grandson of Alexander’s general Seleucus was a megalomaniac named Antiochus IV, who had himself proclaimed “Antiochus Epiphanes” – the Illustrious, or Magnificent. He felt so intoxicated with the glories of humanistic Greek culture (which had come to dominate most of the civilized world) that he determined to crack down on his retrograde Jewish subjects with their old-fashioned, monotheistic faith and stubbornly anachronistic folkways. Like today’s secularists, the followers of Antiochus took special aim at the rite of circumcision – which, to the enlightened Hellenists, unforgivably marred the “divine perfection” of the human form. Wealthy children of the Judean elite embraced up-to-date Greek culture so completely that they even submitted to profoundly painful operations to hide the impact of their infant circumcisions, allowing them to wrestle nude at the gymnasium without embarrassment. That nude wrestling suggested another area of impassioned disagreement between the broad-minded humanists of that era and their implacable opponents on the Religious Right: the conservatives and puritans who eventually rebelled against the assimilationist establishment, refused to abandon their old, judgmental, intolerant and restrictive attitude toward the male homosexuality so casually and proudly accepted in Greek-influenced societies.

Eventually, a hillbilly priest (Mattathias) from the backwoods town of Modin led his five war-like sons in a bloody revolt against the compromises and betrayals and degeneracy of the local Jewish establishment. The bad guys of the Hanukah story weren’t so much foreign occupiers as they were indigenous traitors who junked the demanding faith of their forefathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, for the trendy, hedonistic, easy-going relativism of Aristotle, Alexander and Antiochus. By placing Greek gods in the Temple in Jerusalem, the Hellenist Jewish leadership didn’t try to exclude or prevent the old worship – they meant to open up the Holy of Holies to worshipers of every nation and of every deity in a grand celebration of diversity.

Anyone who takes even ten minutes to read the actual history of the Maccabean revolt will see similarities between its priestly leaders (most conspicuously, the great commander Judah Maccabee, son of Mattathias) and today’s prominent figures in the Religious Right. The Maccabees insisted on re-affirming ultimate right and wrong, and saw their battle as part of a timeless struggle of good and evil. They demanded a return to the old ways, to the authentic, uncompromising laws of God and the Torah, and they felt only contempt for the Hellenizing modernists who fought against them. The rebels represented the common people – the poor and the humble artisans and the struggling farmers who remained loyal to the ancient faith – while their enemies represented the pampered urban elites, over-educated in the cosmopolitan ways of Judea’s Greek overlords. Again, the basic prayer of the holiday makes clear the essential nature of the struggle, “In the days of Mattathias….and his sons, when the wicked Greek kingdom rose up against your people Israel to make them forget Your Torah and compel them to stray from the statutes of Your Will, You in Your great mercy stood up for them in the time of their distress. You took up their grievance, judged their claim, and avenged their wrong. You delivered the strong into the hands of the weak, the many into the hands of the few, the impure into the hands of the pure, the wicked into the hands of the righteous, and the wanton into the hands of the diligent students of Your Torah.”

In other words, the Religious Right of ancient Judea won a startling victory and we’re meant to celebrate its lessons some 2200 years after the fact.

At an odd moment of history when many leaders of the Jewish people are again displaying the ancient, Hellenistic fascination with homosexuality, humanism, relativism and diversity, it’s not surprising that many left-leaning sects and organizations want to hide the genuine themes of Hanukah. But at a moment when both America and Israel face crucial cultural conflicts that echo the holiday’s ancient struggles, those who know the truth need to broadcast the light of the long-ago miracles and affirm our annual rededication to authentic and undiluted faith.

Whow knew that all of history was really just a struggle against the fags?

Could you please explain why that is the true meaning of Christmas, Easter, Ramadan and Yom Kippur next, please?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
The Real Hanukah: A Celebration of the Religious Right By Michael Medved 1/13/06 townhall.com

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/M...eligious_right

Who are the bad guys in the Hanukah story? And who are the good guys?

These are serious questions with serious consequences.

Most Jews (and certainly most Christians) dismiss the winter holiday as a trivial, feel-good festival about candles, potato pancakes, spinning tops (dreidls),and eight nights of gifts, without coming to terms with its serious, relevant and distinctly uncomfortable messages. While frequently (and fatuously) described as a “celebration of tolerance,” Hanukah is more properly designated as an annual re-dedication to the values of the Religious Right.

No wonder that so many American Jews (with their reflexive, often ignorant liberal instincts) refuse to acknowledge the real Hanukah and its politically incorrect messages. In last week’s Washington Post, a householder from Potomac, Maryland named Kenneth Nechin proudly explained that his home attempts to honor the “deeper meaning” of the holiday: “Religious tolerance, the freedom to practice religion, minorities overcoming majorities who are trying to take your rights away.”

Actually, far from celebrating “diversity” or “tolerance” or “respect for every faith,” Hanukah (the name means “dedication” in Hebrew) marks a singular display of intolerance— when religious zealots, exalting the values of “that old time religion,” came into the Temple in Jerusalem and drove out all alternate, “creative” forms of worship. In the “For the Miracles” (Al HaNissim) prayer recited at least three times a day by religious Jews during the eight days of the festival, we salute this uncompromising assertion of absolute truth: “Your children came to the Holy of Holies of Your House, cleansed Your Temple, purified the site of your Holiness and kindled lights in the Courtyards of Your Sanctuary.” No, the fervently faithful rebels did not assign a special area for other religious impulses as part of some ancient commitment to multiculturalism.

The confusion and ignorance about the Jewish winter holiday stem in part from unreliable, inconsistent information about the “wicked oppressors” whose overthrow has been celebrated in this season for more than 2000 years. The Washington Post article, for instance, misleadingly summarized Hanukah as “a Jewish holiday celebrating the ancient victory of the Maccabees over the Syrians.” In countless articles and discussions about the origins of the festival, the enemies of the Jewish faith are variously identified as “Syrians,” “Greeks,” “Assyrians” (totally wrong!), “Assyro-Greeks,” “Syro-Greeks,” and so forth. The inability to come up with a clear answer about who fought to suppress the Judean rebels in 165 B.C. makes it harder to take seriously the history behind the holiday and increases the likelihood that even serious people will focus instead on pleasant but puerile aspects of contemporary celebration.

Actually, Hanukah is hardly unique among religious holidays in highlighting evil-doers whose schemes and cruelty God helps to overcome. The corresponding Christmas celebration recalls the tyrannical King Herod, who wants to kill the Christ child at the very moment of his birth and ends up slaughtering “all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under…” (Matthew, II.16). No one experiences confusion or doubt in identifying the chief bad guy (Pharaoh) of the Passover holiday, or the various wicked figures (Roman authorities and the High Priest’s Temple establishment) in the Easter story. In the Jewish festival of Purim (rightly viewed as a parallel “deliverance” celebration to Hanukah) the Book of Esther unequivocally specifies “the evil Haman” as the enemy who plans to destroy the people of Israel.

Ironically, the historical sources for the Hanukah story are far more authoritative, substantive and complete than any non-Biblical records of the Exodus, the tale of Esther and Mordecai, or even the Nativity or Crucifixion. The Hasmonean Revolt – in which Jewish “Puritans” (and that would be an appropriate designation) won an unlikely triumph against those who embraced or accommodated “enlightened” Greek culture— looked like a significant event even at the time and numerous contemporary historians took note.

Two centuries earlier, Alexander the Great had swept through the Middle East on his way to conquering most of the civilized world. At the time of his death (323 B.C.) three of his Greek-Macedonian generals divided his empire and one of them, Seleucus (originally known as Nicator) took control of Babylonia and the surrounding territory (eventually including Judea). His successors built a powerful, cosmopolitan capital city (Antioch) in present-day Turkey, but it’s confusingly identified as the center of the ancient, Seleucid (named after Seleucus, obviously) kingdom of Syria.

This kingdom, by the way, bears no connection to current day Syrians – who are proudly and unequivocally Arab, and whose ancestors didn’t arrive in the area until 800 years after the events of the Hanukah story. Silly contemporary comments that try to parallel present-day battles of “Israelis and Syrians” to similar struggles between “Israelites and Syrians” in the second century B.C., count as utterly dishonest and off the mark.

In any event, the great-great grandson of Alexander’s general Seleucus was a megalomaniac named Antiochus IV, who had himself proclaimed “Antiochus Epiphanes” – the Illustrious, or Magnificent. He felt so intoxicated with the glories of humanistic Greek culture (which had come to dominate most of the civilized world) that he determined to crack down on his retrograde Jewish subjects with their old-fashioned, monotheistic faith and stubbornly anachronistic folkways. Like today’s secularists, the followers of Antiochus took special aim at the rite of circumcision – which, to the enlightened Hellenists, unforgivably marred the “divine perfection” of the human form. Wealthy children of the Judean elite embraced up-to-date Greek culture so completely that they even submitted to profoundly painful operations to hide the impact of their infant circumcisions, allowing them to wrestle nude at the gymnasium without embarrassment. That nude wrestling suggested another area of impassioned disagreement between the broad-minded humanists of that era and their implacable opponents on the Religious Right: the conservatives and puritans who eventually rebelled against the assimilationist establishment, refused to abandon their old, judgmental, intolerant and restrictive attitude toward the male homosexuality so casually and proudly accepted in Greek-influenced societies.

Eventually, a hillbilly priest (Mattathias) from the backwoods town of Modin led his five war-like sons in a bloody revolt against the compromises and betrayals and degeneracy of the local Jewish establishment. The bad guys of the Hanukah story weren’t so much foreign occupiers as they were indigenous traitors who junked the demanding faith of their forefathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, for the trendy, hedonistic, easy-going relativism of Aristotle, Alexander and Antiochus. By placing Greek gods in the Temple in Jerusalem, the Hellenist Jewish leadership didn’t try to exclude or prevent the old worship – they meant to open up the Holy of Holies to worshipers of every nation and of every deity in a grand celebration of diversity.

Anyone who takes even ten minutes to read the actual history of the Maccabean revolt will see similarities between its priestly leaders (most conspicuously, the great commander Judah Maccabee, son of Mattathias) and today’s prominent figures in the Religious Right. The Maccabees insisted on re-affirming ultimate right and wrong, and saw their battle as part of a timeless struggle of good and evil. They demanded a return to the old ways, to the authentic, uncompromising laws of God and the Torah, and they felt only contempt for the Hellenizing modernists who fought against them. The rebels represented the common people – the poor and the humble artisans and the struggling farmers who remained loyal to the ancient faith – while their enemies represented the pampered urban elites, over-educated in the cosmopolitan ways of Judea’s Greek overlords. Again, the basic prayer of the holiday makes clear the essential nature of the struggle, “In the days of Mattathias….and his sons, when the wicked Greek kingdom rose up against your people Israel to make them forget Your Torah and compel them to stray from the statutes of Your Will, You in Your great mercy stood up for them in the time of their distress. You took up their grievance, judged their claim, and avenged their wrong. You delivered the strong into the hands of the weak, the many into the hands of the few, the impure into the hands of the pure, the wicked into the hands of the righteous, and the wanton into the hands of the diligent students of Your Torah.”

In other words, the Religious Right of ancient Judea won a startling victory and we’re meant to celebrate its lessons some 2200 years after the fact.

At an odd moment of history when many leaders of the Jewish people are again displaying the ancient, Hellenistic fascination with homosexuality, humanism, relativism and diversity, it’s not surprising that many left-leaning sects and organizations want to hide the genuine themes of Hanukah. But at a moment when both America and Israel face crucial cultural conflicts that echo the holiday’s ancient struggles, those who know the truth need to broadcast the light of the long-ago miracles and affirm our annual rededication to authentic and undiluted faith.

Oh Atticus -- whither hast thou forsaken us?

[Adder]

Are we ready to admit that Bush lied yet?

[SlaveNoMore]

notcasesensitive
Kennedy. I prefer Kennedy to Bork. Not that you asked.

And we had been getting along so well.

Alas...

[Spanky]

Originally posted by Adder
Are we ready to admit that Bush lied yet?

?. Even Ty has admitted he didn't lie.

What is the statement by Bush that some recent revelation has shown that he intentionally said something he knew was not true. Again, I have don't have much of problem with Presidents lying (while not under oath) especially when it comes to national security (every President has done this and for good reason), the problem is that in the case with George W it seems that the "lie" most liberals focus on are statements Bush made, that at the time he made them, he believed were true. And as had been pointed out on this board, even Jane Harman thought the statements were true.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Adder
Whow knew that all of history was really just a struggle against the fags?

Could you please explain why that is the true meaning of Christmas, Easter, Ramadan and Yom Kippur next, please?

1) we're not allowed to use F--.

2) every summer my kid plays basketball for the Detroit team at the Maccabi games. Spanky, are you saying that's a hate crime?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Spanky
Even Ty has admitted he didn't lie.

He recently admitted he lied to reporters about his plans to fire Rumsfeld. So the questions are: When did he lie?, and Were his lies justified?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
He recently admitted he lied to reporters about his plans to fire Rumsfeld. So the questions are: When did he lie?, and Were his lies justified?

huh? Rumsfeld resigned. was there a Jimmy Carter-like "fired him in his heart?"

[Spanky]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And we had been getting along so well.

Alas...

Wow, I saw that the shrill troll had posted, but thought that maybe once in her bitter and angry life, she might have posted something of substance.

After I made my post, I had doubts as to its accuracy, so I double checked my statements and saw that Kennedy had replaced Bork (and not Thomas). I made that change and, as the post shows, at 3:47, within ten minutes of making my post, the error was corrected. At 3:48 it seems the bitter hag pounced on my mistake.

Can anyone doubt, after observing the speed at which she jumped on the factual error of my post, that she scans this board with the sole purpose of finding excuses to comment on my posts.

The first time the bitter one ever commented on my posts was to make comments on my spelling (implying that since I misspelled words that the substance of my argument must be lacking). She has also commented on the words used in my posts, the fact that I capitalize all the letters in some words, and pointed out a minor discrepancy between a fraction and a decimal. I can't remember a time when she actually ever had a substantive comment on anything I said, or in fact, a substantive comment on this board about anything anyone has ever said.

If not all, then an overwhelming majority of her recent posts on this board have been nitpicky and non substantive comments concerning posts that I have made.

Of course, she also has commented repeatedly about why a relationship would not work between us, and now is answering questions I direct at other people even though she knows I have her on ignore. What could be more pathetic than answering a question that is not directed to you from a person that has you on ignore?

Slave, why is this woman so angry and bitter? Have you met the men she has dated? Have you heard about the men she has dated in the past? What does she think they have done, or are doing to her that makes her so bitter and hostile? Did daddy make unwelcome visits to her bedroom at night? Why is this hostility being projected and focused on me? Did she get dumped in favor of a stripper or a model?