Waiting for Fitzgerald

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
This is huge.

No, it's not. Nobody but you and the other members of the He-Man Hillary Haters Club gives a flying fuck. You're like the crazy uncle in the corner who blames Ike for handing the country over to the commies.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Are you expecting him to identify skeletons about which we don't already know?

He may have credible and new insight into Clinton's betrayal of classsified US military and national security information to the
RedChinese in exchange for campaign cash.

For starters. Based on the allegations to date, the breadth and depth of the crimes committed by by those people is open to the imagination and not complicated by any moral or ethical boundaries.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
How is he fucked in teh arse? He gave the money. He said they should change something . They said, no thanks, here's your money back.

As for his kids' enrollment, if he thinks he's not getting what he's paying for, he's free to enroll them elsewhere, and others are free not to enroll their kids.

I guess it turns on what "christian values" means in the context. My background is Catholic so if I were to send my kids to a Catholic school that touted a mission defined as guided by by "Christian values" I would be surprised if the curricula included material that had explicit descriptions of homosexual or heterosexual, ftm, sex. I don't know what Episcolians mean by "christian values" but I think that there is at least an outside chance that the book my breach what someone could arguably think that the phrase means.

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

BTW, did you send your kid to the Str8 family fat camp?

I don't know what this means. I didn't read that thread, other than I am aware that str8's family has a camp for fat kids. the literal answer is no, no need. but they are also probably too young for away camp.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
Nope. I do not know the former Senator.

S_A_M

P.S. Tell me again what "npi"means.

No pun intended.

[Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
He may have credible and new insight into Clinton's betrayal of classsified US military and national security information to the
RedChinese in exchange for campaign cash.

For starters. Based on the allegations to date, the breadth and depth of the crimes committed by by those people is open to the imagination and not complicated by any moral or ethical boundaries.

What do you expect Freeh to say:

"I investigated allegations of a number of things, including Red China campaign cash. In fact, I found sufficient evidence to indict the president, but I decided not to."


For years, there was a guy who stood near the Rock Creek Parkway, outside the Watergate, holding a two-sided sign, which he rotated so passing motorists could read both sides. It said something like "Clinton Sold us Out to China/Gore was the Bag Man". He did this from at least 1999, and kept going until some time in 2002. Then he gave up. Apparently he was sane.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
It seems to me that part of the controversy, if that's what it is, stems from deep philosophical questions in the Episcopalian Church regarding what the "Christian values" are with regard to homosexual relationships.

I think that there is an argument to be made that "Christian values" could exclude the teaching of explicit descriptions of sex acts between people of any genders, the same or different, to highschool students.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
I have no reason to question that Drudge accurately reports Kristol's opinion.

I still don't see what torpedoing Miers does for you. He didn't pick her to spite the right. He picked her because the political calculus was that anyone the right was really pushing would not be confirmable. So, instead he picked someone with a sufficiently blank slate that wasn't unconfirmable from the left's view and that he convince the right to trust him on. Having the right not trust him doesn't increase the viability of a candidate they like actually getting confirmed. So you're just delaying the problem by squawking.

She is not qualified. There are others who are and fit his stated philosophy. Put them up and let the process work. I honestly don't believe that the Senate could thumbs down a succession of JRB, Jones, Clement, Luttig, McConnell, et al. At some point public opinion would turn. These are, by any objective standard, qualified, accomplished, impressive jurists. Miers is a slap in the face to that concept.

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
He may have credible and new insight into Clinton's betrayal of classsified US military and national security information to the
RedChinese in exchange for campaign cash.

For starters. Based on the allegations to date, the breadth and depth of the crimes committed by by those people is open to the imagination and not complicated by any moral or ethical boundaries.

Really? And as FBI Director under Clinton, what did he do to stop these treasonous actions when he found out about them? Or to expose them? Maybe he was stymied by the fact that Clinton controlled the federal law enforcement machinery, and had to settle for a noisy resignation. No? Hmmm. He didn't do anything at all at the time? Well, I'm sure that he had a very good reason to wait for five years after W was elected to tell us about this perfidy.

Maybe he'll tell us more about that Christmas tree in the East Wing (or was it the West Wing?) with the sex toys as ornaments.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Sexual Harassment Panda
No, it's not. Nobody but you and the other members of the He-Man Hillary Haters Club gives a flying fuck. You're like the crazy uncle in the corner who blames Ike for handing the country over to the commies.

Yes, that's why a business enterprise spent millions to bring the book to print. To sell me and my uncle a copy. You're fucking idiot......

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What do you expect Freeh to say:

"I investigated allegations of a number of things, including Red China campaign cash. In fact, I found sufficient evidence to indict the president, but I decided not to."

Something close to that, perhaps.

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)

For years, there was a guy who stood near the Rock Creek Parkway, outside the Watergate, holding a two-sided sign, which he rotated so passing motorists could read both sides. It said something like "Clinton Sold us Out to China/Gore was the Bag Man". He did this from at least 1999, and kept going until some time in 2002. Then he gave up. Apparently he was sane.

Does the homeless guy who calls himself breezy still hang out on the west end of the M street bridge? Nice guy. If so, tell him I said hi.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Not Bob
Really? And as FBI Director under Clinton, what did he do to stop these treasonous actions when he found out about them? Or to expose them? Maybe he was stymied by the fact that Clinton controlled the federal law enforcement machinery, and had to settle for a noisy resignation. No? Hmmm. He didn't do anything at all at the time? Well, I'm sure that he had a very good reason to wait for five years after W was elected to tell us about this perfidy.

Maybe he was under the standing threat/risk of Arkancide. He certainly knew Clinton had a dislike of him that manifested itself in a puerile manner (although hard to expect anything more of arrested adolescent psyche)

Later, relations got so bad that President Clinton reportedly began referring to Freeh as “that F…ing Freeh.”[

What a classless person.

Why is it that you don't want the truth to come out?

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
I think that there is an argument to be made that "Christian values" could exclude the teaching of explicit descriptions of sex acts between people of any genders, the same or different, to highschool students.

IIRC, we discussed Hemingway's "Hills Like White Elephants" (abortion) and Flaubert's "Madame Bovary" (adultery) in great detail in 11th grade English III at Our Lady of Perpetual Motion Dicosean High School. Fitzgerald's "The Great Gatsby" (greed, adultery, lust, murder, drunkeness, overt symbolism) was also on the syllabus.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
Yes, that's why a business enterprise spent millions to bring the book to print. To sell me and my uncle a copy. You're fucking idiot......

In case you are wondering (and I know you are), I believe Mr Penn's version of the phrase is appropriately written as follows: Shut. The Fuck. Up.

As opposed to the Black President Bush version from Chappelle's Show, which I frequently quote (and which I invented quoting here), which is: Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

My ability to parse these subtle distinctions is why they pay me the big bucks.

Carry on.

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Not Bob
IIRC, we discussed Hemingway's "Hills Like White Elephants" (abortion) and Flaubert's "Madame Bovary" (adultery) in great detail in 11th grade English III at Our Lady of Perpetual Motion Dicosean High School. Fitzgerald's "The Great Gatsby" (greed, adultery, lust, murder, drunkeness, overt symbolism) was also on the syllabus.

Perhaps you did. So what? I did not say "christian values" preclude including curricula that contains explicit sexual descriptions or themes, in part. I said that there is an argument that could be made that the term "christian values" included in the mission statement, as it was in that school's mission statement, could preclude such teaching.

Are you saying that it's not possible that a reasonable person, in the context of sending their child to a school whose mission it is, explicitly, to impart "christian values" couldn't come to that conclusion?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
In case you are wondering (and I know you are), I believe Mr Penn's version of the phrase is appropriately written as follows: Shut. The Fuck. Up.

As opposed to the Black President Bush version from Chappelle's Show, which I frequently quote: Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

My ability to parse these subtle distinctions is why they pay me the big bucks.

Carry on.

Thanks. that was helpful. Where do I send the cheque?