Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I'd like to see the actual numbers since - as you are well aware - "cut spending" has become shorthand for "reduce increases in spending"

I thought that usually happened when members of the opposition party got ahold of it, but whatever.

Since the article didn't give the exact figures, I guess we'll have to wait until the spring of 2005 in GWB II to see if there's anything to worry about here on fiscal policy, no?

[Bad_Rich_Chic]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience
Those protesting asked the good question of why would voter registration be a target for homeland security law enforcement activities. Some (including Atrios, I would suppose) think it's setting the stage for such a voter fraud charge, as in "the huge number of illegals we found by staking out the voter registration table indicate that there was more widespread fraud."

Homeland Security took over all duties of the INS, which includes preventing fraud by immigrants (legal and otherwise). It's a legit activity for the dept., though I agree their efforts would be better targeted at other aspects of their duties in the run up to the election. Like keeping shit from blowing up.

If the loser raises the cry of "recount! recount!" after this election I will probably be made sufficiently sick by the self serving cesspool of US politics that I will puke on my shoes. That's why I kept maintaining last time that challenging the FL results and demanding repeated recounts was pernicious and foolish. "Oh," everyone kept telling me, "how can it be a bad thing to be sure every vote is counted accurately, when so much is riding on it?" "Because there will be a next time," I said, and here it comes.

BR(I say we adopt the rule in the british system - no recounts, ever, and if there's a fuck up you just suck it up; otherwise the whole system descends into anarchy every time some idiot marks two names by accident)C

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by The Larry Davis Experience

What I did a poor job of describing is that I have read a few articles that homeland security types are hassling voter registration in Hispanic neighborhoods and outside of naturalization ceremonies for new Hispanic citizens. In other words, not cracking down on Hispanics in general (this is not a profiling issue) but rather voter registration. Here's an article from the WaPo, although it is not the one that i read at the time.

Well, in the spirit of bipartisan compromise that y'all will need to survive my bootheel after November 2, 2004, I will go on record saying that nobody should be hassling anybody outside of a naturalization ceremony. That seems like a particularly despicable thing to be doing, though it would not itself seem to relate to voting fraud charges. Who is doing the hassling here anyway? This is the kind of thing that would get the Right and the Middle going if they were informed of it, so maybe somebody should try publicizing this insanity now rather than waiting to use it as a post-election charge later.

The voter-registration thing is another story though. What better place to catch someone who you might be looking for, than a voter registration place.

Hello

PS For the purposes of clarity, I adopt the remainder of your post which is thusly not addressed.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

We were deeply moved by a comment by Richard Cheney to John Edwards during the recent debate concerning the relative contributions made by members of the "coalition." Cheney said that Edwards "won't count the sacrifice and the contribution of Iraqi allies. It's their country. They're in the fight. They're increasingly the ones out there putting their necks on the line to take back their country from the terrorists and the old regime elements that are still left. . . You suggested. . . somehow they shouldn't count, because you want to be able to say that the Americans are taking 90 percent of the sacrifice. You cannot succeed in this effort if you're not willing to recognize the enormous contribution the Iraqis are increasingly making to their own future."
We agree that not only has Edwards been deficient in this regard but so have we. We shall henceforth operate on the Cheney principle and count not just the casualties of America and its invading allies , but those of the Iraqi people, both military and civilian, as well. We trust other media will follow suit and that readers, out of respect towards the vice president, will urge them to do so.

The current count is as follows, using the lower estimates in case of conflicting calculations:

AMERICAN COALITION CASUALTIES

Deaths (military and civilian): 19,068

Wounded: 47,413

Progressive Review, via Tapped

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
If the loser raises the cry of "recount! recount!" after this election I will probably be made sufficiently sick by the self serving cesspool of US politics that I will puke on my shoes. That's why I kept maintaining last time that challenging the FL results and demanding repeated recounts was pernicious and foolish. "Oh," everyone kept telling me, "how can it be a bad thing to be sure every vote is counted accurately, when so much is riding on it?" "Because there will be a next time," I said, and here it comes.

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[Tyrone Slothrop]

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Progressive Review, via Tapped

Ja? Und?

[Anntila the Hun]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

These unwashed hippie illiterates are all traitors and should be taken out and shot in the interest of advancing civilization. They are a blight on face of Lady Liberty.

Oh wait....never mind.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

I'm not sure what bothers me more -- the shaking of my paradigm (which was to recognize the truth that only traitors and French people thought that things were not A-okay, hunky-dory in Iraq), or that Ty reads the National Review.

[The Larry Davis Experience]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
This is the kind of thing that would get the Right and the Middle going if they were informed of it, so maybe somebody should try publicizing this insanity now rather than waiting to use it as a post-election charge later.

OK. I'll have my people check to see if there's a paper with a larger circulation than the WaPo who might want to pick this story up.

The voter-registration thing is another story though. What better place to catch someone who you might be looking for, than a voter registration place.

I agree, assuming you're looking for high school nerds with fake IDs.

[Gattigap]

"Yeah, he'll be mad because I didn't say it was the biggest one I ever saw."

-- Attorney Bob Bennett, as quoted by CBS News' Bob Schieffer in TV Guide and his new book, after describing "a part of Clinton's anatomy" as "normal in size, shape and direction."

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Gattigap
"a part of Clinton's anatomy" as "normal in .....direction."

dissent. It has pointed in the directon of some things I don't find normal. no offense ykw,

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Why does Senator Kerry acknowledge only one of our internets?

[SlaveNoMore]

Tyrone Slothrop
Why does Senator Kerry acknowledge only one of our internets?

You're resorting to name-calling. Kerry must be losing.

Speaking of losers, god did Anaheim suck. Kudos to your beloved Sox*


* not really. fuck 'em in the ear.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You're resorting to name-calling. Kerry must be losing.

Speaking of losers, god did Anaheim suck. Kudos to your beloved Sox*


* not really. fuck 'em in the ear.

At least I'm not yelling. Then you'd know I was toast.

And not Vlad. He didn't suck.