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07-16-2007, 06:06 PM
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#2041
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Consigliere
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Statutes for Dummies
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Tyrone Slothrop
Maybe Bush held up his fingers and said, we don't "torture" people.
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Maybe he told her to go back and actually read the words of Geneva Convention, and not the NYT cliff notes.
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07-16-2007, 06:11 PM
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#2042
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Idiots on parade
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Meanwhile, had she tried that photo-op "gotcha" with the president of - well, say any country that actually does engage in torture - these kids probably would have been immediately shot in the head.
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I am surprised that you, of all people, are -- like Bush -- pretending that we don't "actually" torture people. I would have thought that you'd be proud of it, instead of pretending we aren't doing it.
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07-16-2007, 06:12 PM
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#2043
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Statutes for Dummies
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Maybe he told her to go back and actually read the words of Geneva Convention, and not the NYT cliff notes.
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Do you think Bush has ever bothered to read the Geneva Convention? Do you think he cares what it says?
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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07-16-2007, 06:22 PM
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#2044
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Consigliere
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Idiots on parade
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Tyrone Slothrop
I am surprised that you, of all people, are -- like Bush -- pretending that we don't "actually" torture people. I would have thought that you'd be proud of it, instead of pretending we aren't doing it.
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Oh yes. The "belly slap" and the waterboard.
The horror. The. Horror.
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07-16-2007, 06:30 PM
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#2045
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Moderasaurus Rex
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Idiots on parade
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Oh yes. The "belly slap" and the waterboard.
The horror. The. Horror.
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There we go -- that's the Slave we know and love. Stop pretending that we don't torture people, and stand up for the sort of brutality you want to see.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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07-16-2007, 06:37 PM
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#2046
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Consigliere
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Idiots on parade
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Tyrone Slothrop
There we go -- that's the Slave we know and love. Stop pretending that we don't torture people, and stand up for the sort of brutality you want to see.
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If said this before. I'll say it again now. I'll probably need to say it again in the future.
You'd have a lot more support both on this Board and in the public as a whole for a universal ban of "torture" when and if the left would stop being a bunch of naifs, sissies and/or weasels and stop branding things that are clearly not torture as "Torture".
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07-16-2007, 06:47 PM
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#2047
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Serenity Now
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Survivor Island
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What's the matter with Georgia?
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
If so, doesn't that make it even more troubling?
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Absolutely, especially w/r/t the death penalty.
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07-16-2007, 06:47 PM
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#2048
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the poor-man's spuckler
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Idiots on parade
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If said this before. I'll say it again now. I'll probably need to say it again in the future.
You'd have a lot more support both on this Board and in the public as a whole for a universal ban of "torture" when and if the left would stop being a bunch of naifs, sissies and/or weasels and stop branding things that are clearly not torture as "Torture".
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What does constitute torture, in your eyes? Need it result in death? Is loss of a limb sufficient? Removal of fingernails (via pliers, etc.)? Induced hypothermia?
Where's the line and does it move depending on the subject?
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07-16-2007, 06:48 PM
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#2049
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World Ruler
Join Date: Apr 2003
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Idiots on parade
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
If said this before. I'll say it again now. I'll probably need to say it again in the future.
You'd have a lot more support both on this Board and in the public as a whole for a universal ban of "torture" when and if the left would stop being a bunch of naifs, sissies and/or weasels and stop branding things that are clearly not torture as "Torture".
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If the Khmer Rouge did it, how bad could it be?
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07-16-2007, 07:21 PM
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#2050
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Consigliere
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Idiots on parade
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Shape Shifter
If the Khmer Rouge did it, how bad could it be?
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They were ostensibly Communist, so the Left didn't really care.
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07-16-2007, 08:32 PM
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#2051
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Idiots on parade
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
They were ostensibly Communist, so the Left didn't really care.
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How quickly you pass from defending torture to what interests you even more, attacking the left.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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07-16-2007, 08:51 PM
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#2052
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Consigliere
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Idiots on parade
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Tyrone Slothrop
How quickly you pass from defending torture to what interests you even more, attacking the left.
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Since the left sees fit to proclaim over and over again that anything less than 3 meals a day - perhaps a Taco Bell fourthmeal on weekends? - and a stay at Camp Cupcake is "torture", why shouldn't they be attacked?
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07-16-2007, 08:55 PM
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#2053
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 138
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Waterboard the Democrats
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Since the left sees fit to proclaim over and over again that anything less than 3 meals a day - perhaps a Taco Bell fourthmeal on weekends? - and a stay at Camp Cupcake is "torture", why shouldn't they be attacked?
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Boy, you talk about the left being soft little sissy girls and look at you! Tell it to them straight you soft-bellied little reptile - those unAmerican Yankees deserve nothing less than a good waterboarding, and if they want to call that torture, well, then I say we really give them some real, old fashioned Southern style "hospitality" and see what they say.
These no-good do-gooders remind me of that Lincoln fellow and his complaints about good Southern Gentlemen.
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07-16-2007, 09:48 PM
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#2054
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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Idiots on parade
Quote:
Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Since the left sees fit to proclaim over and over again that anything less than 3 meals a day - perhaps a Taco Bell fourthmeal on weekends? - and a stay at Camp Cupcake is "torture", why shouldn't they be attacked?
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If you had a good defense for torture, you wouldn't stoop to this crap.
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“It was fortunate that so few men acted according to moral principle, because it was so easy to get principles wrong, and a determined person acting on mistaken principles could really do some damage." - Larissa MacFarquhar
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07-17-2007, 11:25 AM
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#2055
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Moderasaurus Rex
Join Date: May 2004
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good news
- ATLANTA — A man convicted of killing a police officer won a reprieve a day before his scheduled execution, after his lawyers argued that several witnesses had recanted or changed their testimony.
The state Board of Pardons and Paroles on Monday granted a stay of execution of up to 90 days to Troy Davis, 38, who was convicted of killing a Savannah police officer in 1989.
He had faced a Tuesday execution date before the board's decision, which came after less than an hour of deliberation. The stay means the execution will be on hold while the board weighs the evidence presented as part of Davis' request for clemency. The board must rule by Oct. 14.
linko
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