Nutjobs Ranting About Politics.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Gattigap
No offence, but I don't think you're really talking about a "right" anymore.

If you're really talking about limiting your life support to your dime, I doubt the state or anyone else will care about how you, in your vegetative state, choose to spend your remaining resources.

Again, this is a good feature for the fortified villa. I'm sure that you can have a separate room dedicated to it, in which you can store the equipment.

This whole discussion is ass backwards. A few weeks ago, I noted that I didn't think someone had the right to pull my plug on my behalf unless clearly consistent with my pre-existing intentions. No all the sudden I'm the one who wants to pull people's plug if they can't pay for it. You lefties are really good at that bait and switch.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sgtclub
You lefties are really good at that bait and switch.

Wait! You haven't heard about our great deal on the timeshares yet!

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by bilmore
Isn't that what we've done?

Not really. I assume you mean by agreeing to this form of government, but we really didn't have a choice. At least I didn't. I was born into it. Given your age, you might have.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by the Spartan
One of my socks, once. We have to justify the cost of the personal defence arsenal we have amassed.

You should post more often.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by sgtclub
This whole discussion is ass backwards. A few weeks ago, I noted that I didn't think someone had the right to pull my plug on my behalf unless clearly consistent with my pre-existing intentions. No all the sudden I'm the one who wants to pull people's plug if they can't pay for it. You lefties are really good at that bait and switch.

I'm confused. I thought the vegetative person/embryos were enslaving the hospital/power company unless they can pay to have the plug left in, but now you've lost me.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by bilmore
So, welfare mom with five kids gets my bucks. She gets to live in a real dwelling, and the kids get to attend a school for more than a week at a time, and they are well-nourished while doing so. They are off the streets, not committing crimes, to my benefit. They become more attuned to a productive life, to my benefit ('cuz maybe I won't have to support THEIR kids). They get trained and go out and work, contributing taxes and productivity, to my general benefit.

It's no bright-line thing. It's never "she got the money, and so she was the ONLY beneficiary of my largesse."

If you decided this was really a benefit to you, you could certainly volunteer to make this payment, and I'm sure many others would join you. Hell, I might even kick in a few bucks for the right person. But why should it be cohersive?

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I'm confused. I thought the vegetative person/embryos were enslaving the hospital/power company unless they can pay to have the plug left in, but now you've lost me.

I thought it was that you and the other techno-Nazis were deleting good folks' posts.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sgtclub
If you decided this was really a benefit to you, you could certainly volunteer to make this payment, and I'm sure many others would join you. Hell, I might even kick in a few bucks for the right person. But why should it be coercive?

For the same reason strident DU'ers are paying taxes to fund the military to invade Iraq.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
I thought it was that you and the other techno-Nazis were deleting good folks' posts.

Wonk was justifiably upset because he always pays his bills. Something for you to remember come mid-November.

[the Spartan]

Originally posted by bilmore
For the same reason strident DU'ers are paying taxes to fund the military to invade Iraq.

Again with the DU'ers.....you've changed [sigh]

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
RT surely knows better than I do, but I can't believe most insurance will pay for that for very long, and most people don't have that kind of money.

After the insurance money runs out, usually a patient's family start depleting assets until the patient qualifies for Medicaid. Though I'm sure they'd love to, I've never heard of a hospital or nursing home pulling the plug on someone because no one was paying for the care.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sgtclub
If you decided this was really a benefit to you, you could certainly volunteer to make this payment, and I'm sure many others would join you. Hell, I might even kick in a few bucks for the right person. But why should it be cohersive?

It's not clear to me from whence this "Lord of the Flies" bender came, but I like it. You should post more often.

I think we should pull together a collection to deposit you, together with 25 other declared libertarians, on a remote island. Sort of a "Libertarian Survivor."

Sure, the theory posits that civil society will emerge with an efficient, functioning set of mutually beneficial contractual relationships, but my $20 says that within a week, you'll be a drone commanded to build coconut monuments to Bob, God of Rain.

[the Spartan]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
After the insurance money runs out, usually a patient's family start depleting assets until the patient qualifies for Medicaid. Though I'm sure they'd love to, I've never heard of a hospital or nursing home pulling the plug on someone because no one was paying for the care.

I think one of my clients may have allegedly had a CNA in a SNF try to put a pillow over a patient's head once, but I'm not sure if the patient in question was in arrears, sts, nttawwt.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Gattigap
It's not clear to me from whence this "Lord of the Flies" bender came, but I like it. You should post more often.

I think we should pull together a collection to deposit you, together with 25 other declared libertarians, on a remote island. Sort of a "Libertarian Survivor."

Sure, the theory posits that civil society will emerge with an efficient, functioning set of mutually beneficial contractual relationships, but my $20 says that within a week, you'll be a drone commanded to build coconut monuments to Bob, God of Rain.

My money says the monument will dedicated to Milton Friedman or Ayn Rand, FWIW.

Still unclear why club thinks embryos have the right to enslave other people to pay for their freezer. Maybe it's in The Fountainhead somewhere.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by Gattigap
It's not clear to me from whence this "Lord of the Flies" bender came, but I like it. You should post more often.

My 2000+ posts are not enough? I just abhor welfare and related programs. It's nothing new, you just probably ignored the first 100 or so on this topic.

I think we should pull together a collection to deposit you, together with 25 other declared libertarians, on a remote island. Sort of a "Libertarian Survivor."

Sure, the theory posits that civil society will emerge with an efficient, functioning set of mutually beneficial contractual relationships, but my $20 says that within a week, you'll be a drone commanded to build coconut monuments to Bob, God of Rain.

I think you are short changing society. Look at all of the private charities and all the money that flows into them. You don't think this would increase (and be more effective) if you took the G/politics out of the mix?

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