Meh.

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
It's tough because most anything you do would fuck up underling if he doesn't get the job, or decides not to take it.

Can you start a hire search on your own, and anon, or do you need authorization? Maybe you could start looking secretely in case you do need to replace them. Of course, your boss might find out you knew then and didn't tell him.

Assume that I could authorize but would need to simultaneously report it up the chain to avoid the potential for upper level backlash.

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
It is not a matter of "fucking the person up".

It is more managing staffing and workload concerns and that "she" doesn't want to get saddled with more work and administrative headaches when underling leaves with little notice.

So talk to underling and try to persuade him/her to stay. That's such an obvious answer I find it hard to believe there isn't more going on here.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
Yes, both potentially good. thanks. How about just starting to look now to beat underling to the punch? Once someone starts interviewing is there a psychological leap that is made where it is hard for a person to be truly committed to the organization again?

I interviewed for and was offered a job that I ultimately turned down to stay where I was. I ended up leaving the firm a year later.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
Assume that I could authorize but would need to simultaneously report it up the chain to avoid the potential for upper level backlash.

no good.

Is underling a "he?"

maybe if you started wearing low-cut stuff more, leaning over his desk to explain etc. you could change his mind?

RT frequently "forgets" to bring a bra to wear, as an example. RT, any males quit your job since you started that?

[ThurgreedMarshall]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
It is not a matter of "fucking the person up".

It is more managing staffing and workload concerns and that "she" doesn't want to get saddled with more work and administrative headaches when underling leaves with little notice.

Stop whining. Act like you don't know this person is interviewing and when they leave, hire someone else.

TM

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
So talk to underling and try to persuade him/her to stay. That's such an obvious answer I find it hard to believe there isn't more going on here.

In part there is some discomfort with that idea due to the way the information was obtained (a breach of etiquette by the other's firm who received the resume).

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Fenwick
If we assume close enough, what does one say? "I know you're interviewing, wtf?" ?

More like "hey, I hear you're interviewing at _____ -- what's up? Is it money, workload, or is Not Bob still complimenting your hair every morning? If you're going to leave, will you at least stick around for us to find a replacement and have your help in training him?"

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Stop whining. Act like you don't know this person is interviewing and when they leave, hire someone else.

TM

Assuming that the person does some work and that his leaving will leave a hole in productivity, somehow that doesn't seem like a practical or efficient way to manage a business or workloads, but thanks for the advice.

[Mr. Man]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
The funny thing about you is that you are so completely unaware of how wrong you are that it can't even be explained to you. This happens often.

But I'm with you on the unbearable, insufferable, bullheaded part.

TM

I am not jumping into this particular fray, since I have not tracked what it is about. However, the general saying used around the workplace here is something like:

"Rarely right, never uncertain."

[Not Bob]

Originally posted by Fashionable But Anonymous
In part there is some discomfort with that idea due to the way the information was obtained (a breach of etiquette by the other's firm who received the resume).

It's a small world, and this stuff happens all the time. Someone from the MacGillicuddy firm who is at a closing at the Dunning Sponget firm sees you going into the managing partner's office. One of your law school classmates sees you at the Harvard Club having lunch with two shareholders and an associate from the Schicklegruber firm.

If you are close enough to talk, don't worry about the source. I guarrantee you that they won't care how you found out.

[Mr. Man]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Stop whining. Act like you don't know this person is interviewing and when they leave, hire someone else.

TM

Having enormous experience with the underling interviewing and leaving topic, our firm would not do much. Everyone understands the reality that people move on and sometimes there is not a mutual fit between employer/employee or a particular job situation. There should not be a consideration for whether a particular person will be swamped if they leave, or some sort of retribution. That's just part of the process, and next time it may be you. That being said, when it was learned that people were interviewing they would typically get a visit asking if there was anything correctible that could be done to make the person's job experience better.

[Not Bob's Id]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
Although this schtick has the potential to become tiresome, this part made me chuckle. You can't go wrong substituting "f" for "s" like they did in days of yore.

Thanks. I'll try to keep my schtick from becoming tiresome.

I am, however, a bit hurt that Miss Anonymous didn't ask me for advice.

[dtb]

Originally posted by Mr. Man
I am not jumping into this particular fray, since I have not tracked what it is about. However, the general saying used around the workplace here is something like:

"Rarely right, never uncertain."

That is MOST EXCELLENT. You are worthy of the Pretty Lady, sir.

On another topic:

Last night, my son was telling me about school (he's in first grade), and he was lamenting that in his math group, they do lots of worksheets, and in the other math groups, the kids play games.

He asked his teacher if he could be transfered out of the "work" math group into the "play" math group, but she said he would learn much more in the group he is in, so he has to stay put. He wasn't happy about this. I told him that I understood that it seemed like it would be more fun to play games, but that he goes to school to learn, not just to play. Here's how the conversation went:

dtb: Offspring, you go to school to learn, not just to play games.

dtb.jr: [Derisive snort] I go to school to play recess and eat lunch.

We laughed and laughed. Oh, how we laughed.

[Hank Chinaski]

Originally posted by dtb
That is MOST EXCELLENT. You are worthy of the Pretty Lady, sir.

On another topic:

Last night, my son was telling me about school (he's in first grade), and he was lamenting that in his math group, they do lots of worksheets, and in the other math groups, the kids play games.

He asked his teacher if he could be transfered out of the "work" math group into the "play" math group, but she said he would learn much more in the group he is in, so he has to stay put. He wasn't happy about this. I told him that I understood that it seemed like it would be more fun to play games, but that he goes to school to learn, not just to play. Here's how the conversation went:

dtb: Offspring, you go to school to learn, not just to play games.

dtb.jr: [Derisive snort] I go to school to play recess and eat lunch.

We laughed and laughed. Oh, how we laughed.

He sounds irritable. Have you checked to see if there is anything you could correct to cure this? Maybe his underwear is too tight?

[dtb]

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
He sounds irritable. Have you checked to see if his underwear is too tight?

Daily.