Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Yet another reason not to have rugrats. That, and the fact that my friends/family with kids seem to have completely given up their own lives for the dubious reward of passing on their genes and possibly bearing the next Einstein, when they could (1) better put their efforts towards being an Einstein themselves or (2) find that despite their best efforts, they've inadvertently raised the village idiot.

That, and having accidentally caught a bit of a TLC thing on childbirth, which left me convinced that no amount of drugs could make me able to handle the gore.

As one of the wise old men around the place (OK, I'm probably not as old as Bilmore and not as "wise" as half of you, but, still, as one of the reasonably wise and somewhat older men around the place), I can tell you that you've only experienced a small fraction of life until you've had kids. Until you truly start seeing the world through multiple (if overtired) eyes and feel the raging hormones inspired by every step of the process, your world is limited in ways you can never imagine.

And, both pregnancy and post-partum sex include their own rewards.

So broaden your horizons. Live a little. Breed.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Thats it. You are cut off from leery/pervy comments for the rest of the day.

I second this; today I nominate Bilmore to make all of Wonk's leery/pervy comments (I'm too tired to do it myself).

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by purse junkie
Yet another reason not to have rugrats. That, and the fact that my friends/family with kids seem to have completely given up their own lives for the dubious reward of passing on their genes and possibly bearing the next Einstein, when they could (1) better put their efforts towards being an Einstein themselves or (2) find that despite their best efforts, they've inadvertently raised the village idiot.

That, and having accidentally caught a bit of a TLC thing on childbirth, which left me convinced that no amount of drugs could make me able to handle the gore.

Wellll... there is some primordial instinct thing that gives us some supreme pleasure at having a child and watching it grow up. Hell, every single person with kids rambles about how its "a miracle", and the reaction is so similar and predictable among every parent regardless of circumstances that the pleasure is clearly chemically induced in the brain. Our bodies manipulate us to do lots of things that favor moving the race along by making such endeavors pleasurable, so I'm sure having a kid will give me a sustained feeling like I just sucked down a huge line of blow for many months, maybe years. We're animals, and who am I to figght with my biology? I fully understand I'll say stupid shit about "miracles" and such after having a kid - I'm wired with the same synapses and vessels as everyone else. So the pleasure of having a kid is common... some of the best kicks in life are common to us. Face it - we basically derive all pleasure from success, reproductive endeavors, comfort and eating.

I understand why many people say "You'll have kids someday." As you age, fighting the "rules" of this life we all go through would wear one's mind down to nothing. The only difference there is between us and the housecats we keep is that we recognize that nature's got us by the balls and consciously go with it because we also realize that fighting it is too damn hard.

S(This might explain why those who never think deeply about what they're doing often tend to be very happy in their endeavors, whereas those who consider the totality of things wind up disillusiioned)D

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
today I nominate Bilmore to make all of Wonk's leery/pervy comments

I don't think I do leery/perv comments well. We should pick someone else.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by purse junkie

That, and having accidentally caught a bit of a TLC thing on childbirth, which left me convinced that no amount of drugs could make me able to handle the gore.

Uh, wouldn't you be at the wrong angle to see most of the gore?

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy

And, both pregnancy and post-partum sex include their own rewards.

Reminds of a comic I saw -- I cannot remember who -- who said that he was in lamaze class with his wife and the lamaze instructor said "do not have sex after the water breaks" and he wondered to himself why it would be necessary to tell people about this and was disturbed by the idea that such a warning must have been precipitated by someone doing so.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by bilmore
I don't think I do leery/perv comments well. We should pick someone else.

Think of it as a growth opportunity.

Sidd's already too good at it, and we need an old man to do it right.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by purse junkie
That, and having accidentally caught a bit of a TLC thing on childbirth, which left me convinced that no amount of drugs could make me able to handle the gore.

But then there's what e/o was saying about her husband and the fire, and the parachute, etc.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I understand why many people say "You'll have kids someday."

They say this because all forms of birth control short of getting fixed are problematic. If you fuck, yes, there's a good chance that you'll have kids someday.

(Many, many of us made no conscious decision "to have kids". And yet, we have kids. Go figure.)

[bilmore]

Originally posted by ThrashersFan
Reminds of a comic I saw -- I cannot remember who -- who said that he was in lamaze class with his wife and the lamaze instructor said "do not have sex after the water breaks" and he wondered to himself why it would be necessary to tell people about this and was disturbed by the idea that such a warning must have been precipitated by someone doing so.

In a world in which we see articles about people with serious injuries resulting from blowing off firecrackers between their butt cheeks, you wonder why?

[ThrashersFan]

Originally posted by bilmore
They say this because all forms of birth control short of getting fixed are problematic. If you fuck, yes, there's a good chance that you'll have kids someday.

(Many, many of us made no conscious decision "to have kids". And yet, we have kids. Go figure.)

Well, since you are talking "birth control" and not contraception I would add that the ultimate form of birth control is still legal so nobody can say that they are "stuck" with having a kid because the rubber broke. I suppose that is the final test of how badly you do not want to have a child.

[NotFromHere]

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
I found the article interesting, in that I do believe that people suck at predicting what they want or how they will feel about certain events in the future, and the whole thing that I thought of as the "deadening effect" (i.e.: nothing really matters as much as you think one way or the other) was interesting. But I actually derive significant pleasure from many of my material possessions.

I agree with almost everything you said (shocker). I also derive a great deal of pleasure from a few of my material possessions. I have told many people many times that I would rather have 1 nice pair of diamond earrings than 20 pair of costume pieces that match all my outfits. I would rather have 1 nice purse than 5 cheap ones. That said, I am very selective about the stuff I buy, I have found that I receive pleasure from these things for a longer period of time if I really really wanted it when I got it.
I think a lot of that comes from being a poor kid. I had 1 doll and few toys. I cherished and took care of them. I see kids now with 40 barbies and a house full of toys, and these kids have no sense of pride in their belongings and therefore treat them like shit. These are the same people who grow up and buy and new car and proceed to put door dings in it, eat in it and ruin the leather. I don't understand these people.

And Thrasher - $9000 in debt in college. Tell that bitch to get a job and stop asking auntie the lawyer for assistance. I worked 2 jobs in college and worked full time during law school. No one gets a hand-out from me.

[purse junkie]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Uh, wouldn't you be at the wrong angle to see most of the gore?

Yeah, but they seem to hand the kid to you pretty fast afterwards. I don't think it would be an auspicious start to mother-child bonding if I were to pass out in horror at my first sight of it.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by NotFromHere
{Harvard law prof says having kids increases your likelihood of declaring bankruptcy, especially if you are a single/divorced mom}

Thank God for Harvard. I mean, I never would have figured out that (1) raising kids is expensive and (2) raising kids reduces the amount of time you have available to do extra work to make ends meet.

Next up: Harvard med school research team determines that having Thurgreed's momma sit on you increases the likelihood that you'll have difficulty breathing.

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by paigowprincess
Thats it. You are cut off from leery/pervy comments for the rest of the day.

Okay, Mom. But if Thurgreed starts something, I'm not holding back.