Politics: Where we struggle to kneel in the muck.

[Not Me]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
That said, its been kind of interesting watching the abortion, and teenage pregnancy rates fall together ever since that nice Bill Clinton forced his Contract With America on y'all and ended welfare. In the big picture, we roll back the Great Society bullshit to somewhere around 1927-levels, I doubt there is anything left for us to argue about on a societal level.

I agree. There is no doubt at all that if they have to work to pay for the kids themselves, they are more careful about getting pregnant.

Things would really improve if men were thrown in jail more often for failing to pay child support.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The man who said, "vote early and often," was the mayor of Boston, I'll have you know.

Oh. My. God. All corruption comes from the heart of the Democratic party, but that ain't Boston. Dat's da fadda uv da curran mare.

[sgtclub]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Oh good god. (a) your "intuitive" thing is kinda crap and (b) how would the woman access the exception for rape? Would there have to be a conviction? A trial? Charges filed? Visible violence to the woman?

I would say you are too slow to follow the conversation, but I'm going to settle, instead, on too emotional.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The man who said, "vote early and often," was the mayor of Boston, I'll have you know.

Al Capone was the mayor of Boston?

It may have been quoted by any number of mayors, but the saying originated on the South Side of Chicago. Back in the USA. Back in the Bad Old Days.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Oh. My. God. All corruption comes from the heart of the Democratic party, but that ain't Boston. Dat's da fadda uv da curran mare.

Um, fact check please.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by sgtclub
I would say you are too slow to follow the conversation, but I'm going to settle, instead, on too emotional.

Yeah, that'll go over better.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Think of tax burdens - you get to pay US taxes whereever you go in the world.

That can't be right. If I'm a U.S. citizen resident in Italy, I pay Italian taxes on my income, but why would I pay U.S. taxes as well?

[greatwhitenorthchick]

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
That can't be right. If I'm a U.S. citizen resident in Italy, I pay Italian taxes on my income, but why would I pay U.S. taxes as well?

If you are a US citizen living in Canada, you pay both sets of taxes (Canada taxes based on residency, not citizenship) and the US-Canada tax treaty makes sure that you are not double-taxed - i.e. exempts one set of taxes so in effect, you only pay Cdn tax. I imagine Italy and the US have a similar treaty in place.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Al Capone was the mayor of Boston?

It may have been quoted by any number of mayors, but the saying originated on the South Side of Chicago. Back in the USA. Back in the Bad Old Days.

Um, no. It was James Michael Curley, Mayor of Boston, who said it first. I know that Chicagoans like to take credit for creating political corruption, so think of it as convergent evolution.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
If you are a US citizen living in Canada, you pay both sets of taxes (Canada taxes based on residency, not citizenship) and the US-Canada tax treaty makes sure that you are not double-taxed - i.e. exempts one set of taxes so in effect, you only pay Cdn tax. I imagine Italy and the US have a similar treaty in place.

Interesting. It would seem to me that the U.S. government exercises jurisdiction beyond its own borders in a whole host of ways that strike me as overreaching. I don't see how it should be able to tax income earned in another country, but I'm no tax lawyer.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
If you are a US citizen living in Canada, you pay both sets of taxes (Canada taxes based on residency, not citizenship) and the US-Canada tax treaty makes sure that you are not double-taxed - i.e. exempts one set of taxes so in effect, you only pay Cdn tax. I imagine Italy and the US have a similar treaty in place.

I believe that the similar dynamic occurs amongst states, relevant in our circumstance for GPs that are Ps within a multistate firm. You've gotta pay state tax for not only the state in which you live, but also the other states in which the firm is situtated.

Many states, I think, have tax treaties that allow credits of one set of paid taxes against those owed in the other jurisdiction.

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Um, fact check please.

Dude, I just said what you just said. Its associated entirely with Da first Mare Daley. Put the quote into google (in quotes) with Chicago and get more than 2000 hits. Put it in the same way, except with Boston, and there are a bit more than 700. Anyway, I just said what you just said. That ain't factual enough for you or do you just not speak Chicagoanese?

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Gattigap
I believe that the similar dynamic occurs amongst states, relevant in our circumstance for GPs that are Ps within a multistate firm. You've gotta pay state tax for not only the state in which you live, but also the other states in which the firm is situtated.

Many states, I think, have tax treaties that allow credits of one set of paid taxes against those owed in the other jurisdiction.

But there the firm is, in some sense, a resident of both states. If you spend six months of the year in California, and then move to Nevada, California can't tax the income you earn in Nevada. Only Nevada gets to do that.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Gattigap
I believe that the similar dynamic occurs amongst states, relevant in our circumstance for GPs that are Ps within a multistate firm. You've gotta pay state tax for not only the state in which you live, but also the other states in which the firm is situtated.

Many states, I think, have tax treaties that allow credits of one set of paid taxes against those owed in the other jurisdiction.

It's different among the states - less in the way of treaties and more in the way of constitutional questions. There's a general policy in the tax code of providing credits for foreign taxes paid on foreign income, but we often disagree with other countries as to what constitutes "our" income and "their" income, and treaties try to solve that.

But it's the same with many laws - as US citizens we are bound to act in accordance with our countries' laws, whereever we go. If only the US government were required to provide due process whereever it went...

[Tyrone Slothrop]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Dude, I just said what you just said. Its associated entirely with Da first Mare Daley. Put the quote into google (in quotes) with Chicago and get more than 2000 hits. Put it in the same way, except with Boston, and there are a bit more than 700. Anyway, I just said what you just said. That ain't factual enough for you or do you just not speak Chicagoanese?

Everyone thinks Chicago's nickname as "The Windy City" is meteorogical, not political, but they're all wrong.