Fashionistas you have arrived 3-25-03 - 10-3-03

[Connect_the_Dots]

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Who cares about Robert Palmer and that other dead guy? Modigliani died yesterday!

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Sep25.html)

R.I.P., you magnificient bastard!

[ias_39]

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall

I'm surprised some enterprising answering machine company hasn't invented one of those systems that are such a pain in the ass to get through when you're trying to call a company for any other reason besides buying whatever product they're selling, for use by individuals.

Mr. T's way ahead of you. I've heard him advertising one; I think it's the ScreenMachine. Friends can skip the prerecorded menu by pressing "5" immediately. Based on the advertisements, it sounds like 47 usc 227 implemented by 47 CFR § 64.1200 prohibits the telemarketers from dialing through.

[ias_39]

Originally posted by Adder

Do you really think that will be the general response? I seems more likely that people would prefer to ban the political and charitable speech as well, thus avoiding the 1st Amendment issue. The question is whether the politicians will go for that.

Don't be so simplistic. You could have multiple lists, one for quantititive studies, one for telemarketing, one for charitable/religious, &c, &c. As long as people can opt out of each list, it's content neutral, right?

[ias_39]

Originally posted by bilmore

There is no such thing as a centrifugal force.

Your seatbelt might disagree. When you round a curve, you exert centrifugal force on it, and it in turn, exerts centripetal force on you.

editted to add:

And, don't tell me about "fictitious" forces. No doubt, an old grappler like yourself has seen someone hit a killer three-point takedown. The mat hits back.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by ias_39
Your seatbelt might disagree. When you round a curve, you exert centrifugal force on it, and it in turn, exerts centripetal force on you.

editted to add:

And, don't tell me about "fictitious" forces. No doubt, an old grappler like yourself has seen someone hit a killer three-point takedown. The mat hits back.

I think you do confuse a force with inertia. If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, does the ground push back? I don't think so. If you go down that path, you end up with the "there's no such thing as a body at rest because there's always some moving frame of reference from which to observe it", and that leaves you with no solutions. And, of course, I never hit the mat.

Originally posted by leagleaze
Now if Ahnold was walking fast enough or perhaps running Ahnold would feel as if some force were working upon him, pushing him outward. However, the red bearded fellow who comes to buy Ahnold so he can learn to do what is quoted in Tyrone's sig line would not see this "force". This is because centrifugal force "exists" only in certain frames of reference (rotational but not inertial). What really is happening is the centripetel force is working on Ahnold but Ahnold, like all objects would like to go straight to the Governor's mansion.

Ooo, this was good.

[Adder]

Originally posted by ias_39
Originally posted by Adder



Don't be so simplistic. You could have multiple lists, one for quantititive studies, one for telemarketing, one for charitable/religious, &c, &c. As long as people can opt out of each list, it's content neutral, right?

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about 30 seconds after the post but didn't figure I should subject other people to addtional telemarketing post.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by bilmore
I think you do confuse a force with inertia. If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it, does the ground push back? I don't think so.

Helping little playmore with the homework, are we?

If I may, you're ignoring Newton's 3rd Law, that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If Bilmore hits the mat (say, because you had that last bottle of wine last night), Bilmore exerts a force against the mat and the mat must react in some way. The reactive force can take many forms. If the mat compacts on impact, the matter comprising the mat will likely then decompact some, pushing back Bilmore. That way, Bilmore will not just leave a large indent on the mat from the force of his fall.

I hope this helps little playmore.

Originally posted by bilmore
Ooo, this was good.

Suckup.

But I'll be really impressed if Leagl can give us an Ahnuld example of reactive force.

G^3 (has the board been ceded to the nerds for the weekend?)

[Don Van Vliet]

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
has the board been ceded to the nerds for the weekend?

Not anymore, baybuh, because the Captain's back!!!

Gonna make sure you can see the difference between a Coke can and a Lobster carcass while I'm g-g-groovin' here in the bunkers.

It's gonna be a bumpy ride so grab your moccassins.

-the Captain

[pretermitted_child]

Originally posted by bilmore
There is no such thing as a centrifugal force.

(This is a physics test. Respond as you dare.)

I've read through some of the responses, and I think the following may help:

A list of definitions containing, inter alia, "centrifugal force", "inertia", and "fictitious force" is provided here:

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/glossary.htm

An example of proper usage of these terms is provided here:

http://www.bartleby.com/64/C004/015.html

The upshot: Centrifugal force, while not one of the four fundamental forces, is, nevertheless, an inertial force worthy of mention. See:

http://observe.arc.nasa.gov/nasa/spa...trifugal1.html

Pretermitted(so, have we broken the FB yet?)Child

Re: Tree falling in a forest (regardless of whether someone hears it or not): The moment the tree hits the ground, the ground pushes back with a force equal and opposite to it. (There may be some inelastic deformation, but my point is that the tree doesn't fall right through the ground to, say, the center of the earth or something.)

[Say_hello_for_me]

Originally posted by pretermitted_child

Pretermitted(so, have we broken the FB yet?)Child

Re: Tree falling in a forest (regardless of whether someone hears it or not): The moment the tree hits the ground, the ground pushes back with a force equal and opposite to it. (There may be some inelastic deformation, but my point is that the tree doesn't fall right through the ground to, say, the center of the earth or something.)

Inelastic being a relative term, I believe, in the context of static and dynamic force analysis. The deformation being relatively inelastic.

Hell(dynamics? YUCK)0

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Inelastic being a relative term, I believe, in the context of static and dynamic force analysis. The deformation being relatively inelastic.

Hell(dynamics? YUCK)0

I sense some patent lawyers (who really know what they are talking about) starting to show up, Pretermitted and Hello. Am I right?

My spine just tingles when you guys start talking about inelastic deformation!

[pretermitted_child]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Helping little playmore with the homework, are we?

I almost never asked my parents for help with homework -- especially physics. Not because I understood everything in class the first time, but because my parents almost always left me more confused afterwards.

Pretermitted(Actually, classical mechanics can get pretty hairy. Not to mention boring. That's why I majored in electrical engineering instead.)Child

[pretermitted_child]

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I sense some patent lawyers (who really know what they are talking about) starting to show up, Pretermitted and Hello. Am I right?

My spine just tingles when you guys start talking about inelastic deformation!

Nope, I am not a patent lawyer.

Pretermitted(But I am a geek. Patent lawyers do not have a monopoly on geeks.*)Child

* See also leagleaze.

Edited to fix grammar and to add footnote.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Originally posted by pretermitted_child
Nope, I not a patent lawyer.

Pretermitted(But I am a geek. Patent lawyers do not have a monopoly on geeks.)Child

The electrical engineering degree is enough to trump my geek credentials. At this moment (working on a fairly technical development agreement), I'm wishing I had one myself.

[Greedy,Greedy,Greedy]

Since it is geek night on the FB, why don't I suggest a different quiz than the usual "What Bowie are You?" type. Has anyone done a Self Referential Aptitute Test before?

G^3( eeeek! )