Fashion Board 11-2-03 - 12-09-03

[spookyfish]

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Les Moonves said in an interview in today's Daily Variety that cancelling "The Reagans" movie received the most public reaction from anything he's ever done at CBS. "Except for when we cancelled Dr. Quinn. I still literally get 100 emails a month."

Huh? From whom?

Probably as subset of angry man-bashing Jane Austen readers.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by baltassoc
Therre is a very funny piece by David Foster Wallace in A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again that is built on this confusion when he is covering the Iowa state fair for Harpers and is suddenly and mysteriously the center of attention at the bake-off.

It's a great book, and a much easier read to get into than his fiction. The eponymous piece about being on a cruise ship is quite hysterical.

I've read that book, and while I do agree it has some moments of great comedy, on the whole I did not enjoy it. Foster Wallace is more enamored with showing you how he clever he is for observing the ordinary on so many levels than he is in entertaining. He's like Seinfeld, just without the punchline... and Faulkner had less useless description in his writing.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by tax_hottie
As un-American as this may sound, I don't really like turkey and no one in my family is crazy about it either. I find it to be too "gamey" tasting. We always end up with a shitload of leftover turkey that never gets eaten, since no one really likes it. I'd rather have roast chicken instead. Has anyone ever had a non-traditional Thanksgiving dinner? What about a pot roast? I LOVE all the Thanksgiving side dishes, so we would definitely have things like apple-sausage stuffing, garlic mashed potatoes, creamed spinach, pumpkin pie, etc. Anyway, I am leaning towards the pot roast idea... Any other recommendations out there?

T(turkey-hater)H

AMEN. Turkey is shit. I eat it is filler in sandwiches smothered in mustard with lettuce/tomato/onions, etc... but it cannot be served as a stand alone meat. Its comical to hear people say "ooooh, I can't wait for the turkey!!!" What, like you didn't eat turkey 10X last month? I guess maybe its exotic... if you grew up in a cave somewhere. Its the filler meat for just about every sandwich imaginable. And then you have to listen to everyone rant abouyt how tasty the turkey was... at which point I want to say "Bullshit... its plain dull white meat and it tastes the same every time you eat it." It may as well be tofu. I lobby for a tenderloin every year, and every year I get shot down because some relative throws a hissy fit that to not have turkey would be heresy.

S(I usually fill up on the shrimp cocktail that's served beforehand)D

[lookingformarket]

Originally posted by tmdiva
T_H, I got my pork at the farmers' market (grass-fed, organic, blah blah blah)--I can give you more details if you like. And if you need any fresh herbs (rosemary, thyme, sage, chives, mint, oregano), just come on over and I can give you a few snips. I can also provide the recipes if you need them.

Couldn't you just prepare the loin and have it ready for her to pick up and throw in the oven? It would be easier.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Atticus Grinch
Concur. After one semester of Feminist Response to Religious Studies, even Jesus sounded like a real prick. It took a while for the effect to wear off.

Jane Austen is history's greatest monster. If given the choice between watching English productions of her novels, particularly the criminally boring epic Pride and Prejudice, for the rest of my life or lethal injection, there is no question - pass the needle please. Anything that dull should be burned and scoured from every repository of the printed word.

As to feminist literature classes, I had some freak teach me Chaucer's Canterbury Tales in college, and every single analysis was somehow aimed at finding feminist underpinnings to those silly little tales (Canterbury Tales is painfully dull, but I took the course because it filled in a credit I needed). One day, this freak starts telling us that several of thetales contain allusions to menstruation, and that this was a very hidden early feminist message about female empowerment. I raised my hand and said "Has anyone ever considered that there is no secret message here and that these tales are just tales? I mean, we seem to be really torturing the literature here and I just don't see this one." I got a C+ in that course and she never called on me again that semester.

S(God did I waste my folks' money in college... its fucking criminal they give anyone a degree, and any teacher a salary, for something as utterly pointless as mentally masturbating over the meaning of crap like Chaucer)D

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Gattigap
(It took me a while to gather together bail after that episode triggered by ShapeShifter's recommended mammalian "club". A helpful safety tip -- the phrase "The Lizard Sent Me" does not carry the cache that one might ordinarily expect.)

Gattigap

You obviously used the incorrect handshake. Easy mistake to make when you visit the Golden Driller.

[Shape Shifter]

Tina is fine and well and still in the pool. The bubbles in her tummy are just air and do not smell.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by spookyfish
Probably as subset of angry man-bashing Jane Austen readers.

I've read a few Austen books and don't find them anti-male at all. I'm puzzled she'd be associated with male bashing. My main complaint is that most of the action in her books is subtle jokes or observations on strange societal conditions and social behaviors of her time, and her time was a very fucking dull time to be alive. I think a lot of chicks cream for Austen's shtick because it deals with nuanced behaviors and subtle humor which requires a great appreciation for detail and subtlety, which most guys have no pateince to read, let alone understand. I get Austen's jokes and her societal observations... I just don't find them particularly funny or insightful. The material is very dated.

[notcasesensitive]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Tina is fine and well and still in the pool. The bubbles in her tummy are just air and do not smell.

Did she have any questions for you about Chicken of the Sea or buffalo wings? Has she dropped any kids in the pool?

[evenodds]

Originally posted by LessinSF
Watch it here

Her parents have alleged that she was drugged and unresponsive on the tape and that she had no idea she was being taped.

Clearly, they were lying.

[evenodds]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I've read a few Austen books and don't find them anti-male at all. I'm puzzled she'd be associated with male bashing. My main complaint is that most of the action in her books is subtle jokes or observations on strange societal conditions and social behaviors of her time, and her time was a very fucking dull time to be alive. I think a lot of chicks cream for Austen's shtick because it deals with nuanced behaviors and subtle humor which requires a great appreciation for detail and subtlety, which most guys have no pateince to read, let alone understand. I get Austen's jokes and her societal observations... I just don't find them particularly funny or insightful. The material is very dated.

Indeed.

[robustpuppy]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Foster Wallace is more enamored with showing you how he clever he is for observing the ordinary on so many levels than he is entertaining. He's like Seinfeld, just without the punchline...

I can see how one might find that annoying.

[andViolins]

Originally posted by evenodds
Her parents have alleged that she was drugged and unresponsive on the tape and that she had no idea she was being taped.

Clearly, they were lying.

If I were a banker, a government worker or had any number of other jobs where I would be off work today honoring our nation's soldiers, I would be set up at home in front of my computer, eagerly downloading this, um, newsworthy item.

Instead I am stuck here. Again. With the IT Nazis. And no porn.

aV

[dtb]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Jane Austen is history's greatest monster.

Honestly, SD, after a start like that, how can anyone take anything that follows seriously?

True, Jane Austen was a horrible monster; despite the collective efforts of Stalin, Mao, Attila the Hun and Hitler, try as they might to wrest the title from little old Jane, she still holds the crown.

Sheesh, my guess is you've never even read a JA novel. Despite baltassoc's characterization of "who marries whom" (which, yes, is a plot device -- but what was she supposed to write about? Her adventures on the high seas? "Write what you know" was advice she gave to a niece of hers who was interested in writing about something -- but I digress...), there is a lot to be learned from her novels about the time in which she lived, and social mores of the era. Now, that may not be of interest to you, but how that translates into "JA was a horrible monster" (oh, wait, sorry -- I mean "history's greatest monster" -- silly me), I cannot fathom.

[Did you just call me Coltrane?]

Originally posted by dtb
"Write what you know" was advice she gave to a niece of hers who was interested in writing about something -- but I digress...)

Yes, Jane Austen was the very first person to give this advice...