A Black Hole of Happiness - Page 181

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 07-13-2007, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
A-Rod is the best all-around player in baseball. The Yankees will and should pay him whatever it takes to keep him. If he leaves, it will be because he wants to leave NY.

Or perhaps because he wants to win.

ThurgreedMarshall · 07-13-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
A-Rod is the best all-around player in baseball. The Yankees will and should pay him whatever it takes to keep him. If he leaves, it will be because he wants to leave NY.

I think Boras has floated ideas of $40 mil per year and/or possibly a piece of the team for ARod after retirement. The Yankees should say, "Suck it," if he asks for that.

Right now, he's the best player in baseball. But why should we pay someone more than twice what another player who (normally) puts up 20-30% less stats, makes?

TM

Shape Shifter · 07-13-2007, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
I think Boras has floated ideas of $40 mil per year and/or possibly a piece of the team for ARod after retirement. The Yankees should say, "Suck it," if he asks for that.

Right now, he's the best player in baseball. But why should we pay someone more than twice what another player who (normally) puts up 20-30% less stats, makes?

TM

$30 is probably the baseline of any negotiation. Money is not the factor here, though. It's all about prestige. You don't think Steinbrenner is willing to pay a premium to have the best player in baseball on his roster?

Tyrone Slothrop · 07-13-2007, 12:41 PM

NAME Lucas Shaw
BORN 1985
OCCUPATION Student
LOCATION Texas
AVATAR NAME Gaenank
AVATAR CREATED 2003
GAME PLAYED EverQuest
HOURS PER WEEK IN-GAME 55
CHARACTER TYPE Barbarian berserker
SPECIAL ABILITIES Dual wield

Cletus Miller · 07-13-2007, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
This is misleading. ARod is a freak. Most really good major league players level off way below where ARod has been. Just because Cabrera has similar numbers to ARod at the same age does not mean he is going to improve at the same rate as ARod. He may be at or near his peak right now (which would be fine with me). It also doesn't mean he will have the longevity and sustained success ARod has had. ARod is a physical specimen. Cabrera, well, let's just do a photo comparison of the two, who are 8 years apart in age:

Fair point, except that a big part of ARod's improvement was a result of moving to that bandbox in Texas. If Cabrera makes a similar move, his stats take off, too. I also think that Cabrera reins in the fat a little.

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At age 40, no. But we're not talking about a comparison of just the last few years. We're talking about the next ten years. And I think that if you total them up, ARod will have better numbers.

If Cabrera doesn't maintain some level of fitness or continues to play in Robby/ProPlayer/Dolphin stadium, then it won't be close. If he goes to the Red Sox and plays under 275, then I'm not so sure. We'll know in 2017.

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Okay, but ARod is 30 right now and he is on pace to break Maris' record (for real).

I'm not sure about what you're saying--ARod hit his 31st last night and still isn't on pace to hit 62 (31 thru 86 games projects to 58+, not even 60). Granted, if he hits 62, he's the legitimate record holder. And he'll probably hit 800 for his career.

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I don't see a serious drop off in talent for ARod over the next 5 years. The guy is a stat machine. And if he stays in shape, I don't think the drop off will be that extreme after that.

Anyway, if ARod wants more than $30 mil, fuck him. I'll take Cabrera.

TM

Nobody saw if coming for Griffey either. He's been a mess since he turned 32.

Hank Chinaski · 07-13-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I seem to recall your saying that you no longer work as a lawyer. What is it you do for money?

she doesn't have time to answer your every question. if you want to book an hour, you have my cell number.

Hank Chinaski · 07-13-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Or perhaps because he wants to win.

translation: I want Thurgreed to talk baseball with ME!

Hank Chinaski · 07-13-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop

NAME Lucas Shaw
BORN 1985
OCCUPATION Student
LOCATION Texas
AVATAR NAME Gaenank
AVATAR CREATED 2003
GAME PLAYED EverQuest
HOURS PER WEEK IN-GAME 55
CHARACTER TYPE Barbarian berserker
SPECIAL ABILITIES Dual wield

to be fair that was back when Shapey was working really long hours, and since moving to NYC he does walk a lot more, at least on the internet.

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone · 07-13-2007, 01:02 PM

Is there a worse current song, especially one played on self-styled "alternative" radio stations, than "Hey there Delilah" by Plain White Tees? Or, for that matter, a worse band name? I shouldn't be feeling burning hatred on a Friday, but that song leaves me little choice.

Oh, and if you SoCals felt a little burn on Wednesday, it's 'cause you were getting sooooooo flipped off.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy · 07-13-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
translation: I want Thurgreed to talk baseball with ME!

translation: I'm giving up talking about Detroit and having no one respond - we'll show them in October.

Hank Chinaski · 07-13-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver_Wendell_Ramone
Is there a worse current song, especially one played on self-styled "alternative" radio stations, than "Hey there Delilah" by Plain White Tees? Or, for that matter, a worse band name? I shouldn't be feeling burning hatred on a Friday, but that song leaves me little choice.

Oh, and if you SoCals felt a little burn on Wednesday, it's 'cause you were getting sooooooo flipped off.

but they actually had some good songs, in the sense of your mid-teen daughter's music choices make PWTs a favorite.

Secret_Agent_Man · 07-13-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by Paisley
Uh, memo baby? Too much time at the office?

Hah!

Pronounced "Meemo." I hadn't given much thought to the spelling.

S_A_M

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) · 07-13-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
$30 is probably the baseline of any negotiation. Money is not the factor here, though. It's all about prestige. You don't think Steinbrenner is willing to pay a premium to have the best player in baseball on his roster?

What about Mark Cuban?

Scott Boras's wet dream: Cuban interested in Cubs

Oliver_Wendell_Ramone · 07-13-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
but they actually had some good songs, in the sense of your mid-teen daughter's music choices make PWTs a favorite.

I know nothing about them, other than that one terrible, terrible song. The mid-teen girl demographic makes sense, though.

Secret_Agent_Man · 07-13-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by pony_trekker
There's this invention called the horn. Press it, only to release it when she moves.

I once broke my horn doing this to a car full of nuns and had to take the horn apart while driving.

I happen to know that if you slam so hard on a horn that it gets stuck on -- and you have to drive five more miles home in traffic -- you will really annoy a lot of people. And your spouse will laugh at you.

S_A_M

I didn't have a screwdriver in the car.