Offering constructive criticism to the social cripples in our midst since early 2005.

[Diane_Keaton]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
You think fundamentalists living in tents in the desert are going to see a mcdonald's and drop their bombs to buy a big mac? And you think that's going to hurt recruiting? Frenchmen--never successful battlers, threw rocks and grenades through the windows of mcdonalds for years, and still resent imperialist american culture. why do you expect a portion of islam to be unable to do the same?

You mean the "core of Muslim culture" you know so well, or just the couple of fanatics you acknowledge?



Mmmm, Imperialist American Culture:

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
From what I can tell, it seems like they're handling this remarkably well.

I've seen more than one brit pissed off about this comment though:

What are they pissed about? As some of you may know, I'm not a big fan of W, and that sentence seems a little self-serving, but I read the rest of his statement and thought it was quite appropriate.

[Replaced_Texan]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
What are they pissed about? As some of you may know, I'm not a big fan of W, and that sentence seems a little self-serving, but I read the rest of his statement and thought it was quite appropriate.

They're pissed about the self-serving part of it.

ETA: This was one comment after admitting anti-Bush bias:

I've had my doubts about Ken Livingstone, but compare his words with the weasel-in-chief's. Which one sounds like a statesman, and which one sounds like a bandy-legged braggart using tragedy to show what a big tough guy he is?

• "This is not an attack against the rich and powerful. It is not an attack on the politicians, but on the common working people of London."
  
  "We have seen that you are not afraid to take your own lives but what you did is just mass murder."
  
  "I can tell you now that you will fail in your long-term objectives to destroy our free society."
  
  "In the days that follow, look at our airports and seaports, and even after your cowardly attacks, you will still see people from around the world coming to London to achieve their dreams."

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And your response was "flood them with US culture" while Pony suggested the bomb.

People in the US can avoid US culture. Think of the off-the-grid folks, the home-schoolers, even the fundies who put blinders on their kids in wal-mart, so the most they can get is a hillary duff album.

You think fundamentalists living in tents in the desert are going to see a mcdonald's and drop their bombs to buy a big mac? And you think that's going to hurt recruiting? Frenchmen--never successful battlers, threw rocks and grenades through the windows of mcdonalds for years, and still resent imperialist american culture. why do you expect a portion of islam to be unable to do the same?

We're never going to be able to turn the fundies living in tents, any more than you'd be able to do so with the fundies living here in tract homes. The only thing we can do is to deprive them of the support of the masses of enabling non-fundamentalists who make it so much easier for them to plan and carry out these attacks. It's them who we should target with the magnificence of American culture, and I think we could do so successfully.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
You think Soc. Sec. will be there for you?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahaah.

Anyway, 2-3M sounds good now, but that's more like 1M (today's money) in 30-40 years. Of course, that's 1M more than Sebby will have.

Wanna bet?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by Shape Shifter
How many 10 year olds have received an abortion without their parents knowing of it?

It's not the point. How many 10 years olds in certain states have the "right"? All of them. Maybe 10 is stretching the hypo, but not beyond the bounds of reality. How about 11? 12?

When your 11 year old daughter goes to a Rainbow Party thanks to the Clinton Legacy to our youth and inadvertantly gets pregnant and during the abortion that you don't know about dies on the table, let me know your thoughts about that state sanctioned murder. The culture of death got Terri Schiavo, i don't want to see them get any innocent children too.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
You think Soc. Sec. will be there for you?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahaah.

Actually, it will all but certainly be there.

But keep reading Krugman. He's funny.

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Some idiots anyway.

Don't know the numbers, but my impression was that public opinion in Britain was never behind the invasion in the first place (except maybe for that window where Blair was saying Iraq posessed the capability to strike with bio/chem WMD in under an hour). Blair has stayed in office despite his terrible numbers on this issue simply because the Tories are more ineffectual than the Democratic party right now, if that can be believed.

But be that as it may --

War in Iraq/London bombings: Correlation or causation? If you think they would have happened anyway then Galloway is an ass and an appeaser. I for one would find it hard to look anyone over there in the eye and tell them that the war in Iraq has made the world a safer place. Maybe GWB should tell them that all he has to offer is blood, sweat and tears (their later albums) and see how that goes over?

[Penske_Account]

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Asshole, does what I wrote sound like appeasement?

Keep listening to Hannity; you're getting stupider and funnier by the moment.

It sounds like tolerance which is proven itself to be a losing strategy. I watched Hannity last nite, good episode.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
When your 11 year old daughter goes to a Rainbow Party thanks to the Clinton Legacy to our youth and inadvertantly gets pregnant and during the abortion that you don't know about dies on the table, let me know your thoughts about that state sanctioned murder. The culture of death got Terri Schiavo, i don't want to see them get any innocent children too.

Can anyone else spot the glaring internal inconsistency here?

Thats my shtick, asshole.

[sebastian_dangerfield]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
It sounds like tolerance which is proven itself to be a losing strategy. I watched Hannity last nite, good episode.

Yes, flooding them with out culture and assassinating the mullahs who challenge us is tolerance.

I see you're following Hannity's Big Book of Red State Punctuation and Grammar as well.

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
It sounds like tolerance which is proven itself to be a losing strategy. I watched Hannity last nite, good episode.

I don't think anyone here advocates tolerance. The attack was outrageous and should be met with a swift, strong response. Indictments should be prepared immediately and we should mobilize the therapists!

[Shape Shifter]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
It's not the point. How many 10 years olds in certain states have the "right"? All of them. Maybe 10 is stretching the hypo, but not beyond the bounds of reality. How about 11? 12?

Okay. How many 11 and 12 year olds have received abortions without their parents knowing about it? How many have died on the operating table receiving abortions that their parents had no knowledge of beforehand?

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by ironweed
Don't know the numbers, but my impression was that public opinion in Britain was never behind the invasion in the first place (except maybe for that window where Blair was saying Iraq posessed the capability to strike with bio/chem WMD in under an hour). Blair has stayed in office despite his terrible numbers on this issue simply because the Tories are more ineffectual than the Democratic party right now, if that can be believed.

But be that as it may --

War in Iraq/London bombings: Correlation or causation? If you think they would have happened anyway then Galloway is an ass and an appeaser. I for one would find it hard to look anyone over there in the eye and tell them that the war in Iraq has made the world a safer place. Maybe GWB should tell them that all he has to offer is blood, sweat and tears (their later albums) and see how that goes over?

Galloway's speech was, at the best, very poorly timed. Saying "I told you so" so quickly is offensive.*

But, if the war and occupation of Iraq were supposed to make the west safer from terrorism (the "flypaper" theory, etc.), and it turns out not to do so, then at some point do we start questioning whether we should continue the occupation? And at what point?

Or do we just keep saying "stay the course."?


*As is saying "don't you go stabbing Blair in the back now, you liberals, it's your fault anyway." And so forth.

[Sidd Finch]

Originally posted by Penske_Account
When your 11 year old daughter goes to a Rainbow Party thanks to the Clinton Legacy to our youth

That's funny -- I was thinking about the same issue last night, but the hypo I came up with was when my middle eastern neighbor's 11-year old daughter gets gang-raped by a bunch of Bushites seeking to fight the war on terror at home.