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Old 04-12-2006, 01:55 PM   #271
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No its not. The world can't attack Iran because doing so would galvanize its populus - which we've worked so hard for so long to massage into an adversarial position against the ruling mullahs - behind its religious leaders.
Duh.

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Iran will eventually turn into a modernized govt. The trick we're trying to work here is to allow it to do so while also preventing it from getting nukes.
Too late.

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Cheney's "threats" are bluffs, and I'm not sure their good ones. The rest of the world is smartly assuring Iran that it need not worry about the crap Dick is saying to avoid Dick's statement providing a rallying cry for support for the religious leaders.
The Iranians aren't worried about Dick's threats because they don't believe we have the capability or the stomach for another Mideast adventure.

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We're not going to kill a revolution over there. Why do you think we've stopped Israel from bombing Iran for the past two years? You think the Israelis don't already know eactly where each piece of Iran's nuke program is located? They could blow Iran's nuke program back to 1970, but we won't let them.
Put the Tom Clancy novel down, and back away slowly.
  • But senior officers warned that attacking targets in Iran would be much more difficult than the air campaign against Iraq in 2003. Iran's air defenses are more formidable. Many nuclear-related targets are dispersed across the country or buried deep underground. And United States intelligence analysts acknowledge that they do not know where all of Iran's secret nuclear-related activities are situated.

    "Iran poses a very difficult target set," said one former top officer who was involved in target planning. "It's a bigger country, with more rugged terrain. It would be very difficult to take down."

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Are the US and Britain playing good cop, bad cop her? I don't know.
Well, if the UK was ever trying to be the good cop, they just changed their tune.

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Old 04-12-2006, 02:17 PM   #272
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Personally, I blame Grover Cleveland. "Ma, Ma, where's my pa?" indeed.

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Let's see . . . Clinton's last day in office was (give or take a day or two) January 20, 2001, and today is April 12, 2006 . . . [math on a scratch pad] . . . fuck that, what's that website? Ah yes, www.timeanddate.com . . . here we go, let's see, click there, and:
  • Duration calculation results
    From and including: Saturday, January 20, 2001
    To, but not including : Wednesday, April 12, 2006

    It is 1908 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date

    Or 5 years, 2 months, 23 days excluding the end date

Yup. You're right. It's that redneck hillbilly horndog bastard's fault.
I believe you whiffed. The "Clinton's fault" thing was making fun of how Hank/Penske would spin this into bouncing off Bush- wasn't it? Burger?
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:20 PM   #273
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I remember reading that at the time. So what are we left with? Hoping that they don't use them or give them to others? Regime change?
learn to live with it- France has the bomb and it's only about 50 years away from all-Sharia all-the-time.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:35 PM   #274
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And another thing- we thought they were for WMDs- once we had them we see they weren't. Sadaam bluffed the world that he had WMDs- maybe the function of the trailers was to appear as what we thought they were. Has there ever been any other function given?
Ah, sweet forgetfulness.

Hank - I'm concerned - will your insurance cover a trip to a cognitive neurologist? I think you should make an appointment.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:36 PM   #275
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Personally, I blame Grover Cleveland. "Ma, Ma, where's my pa?" indeed.

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I believe you whiffed. The "Clinton's fault" thing was making fun of how Hank/Penske would spin this into bouncing off Bush- wasn't it? Burger?
If you were penske, maybe you would make the argument that the Culture of Lies initiated by the Clinton Administration's permissiveness has so thoroughly permeated government that it is now an integral and necessary component of any administration.

You're no penske.

<sniff>

P.S. Also, Senator Byrd is a racist.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:39 PM   #276
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If you were penske, maybe you would make the argument that the Culture of Lies initiated by the Clinton Administration's permissiveness has so thoroughly permeated government that it is now an integral and necessary component of any administration.

You're no penske.

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P.S. Also, Senator Byrd is a racist.
And include a less-than-flattering picture of either Hillary or Ted.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:41 PM   #277
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Personally, I blame Grover Cleveland. "Ma, Ma, where's my pa?" indeed.

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I believe you whiffed. The "Clinton's fault" thing was making fun of how Hank/Penske would spin this into bouncing off Bush- wasn't it? Burger?
I'm trying to figure out if it's an original whiff, or a modified reverse whiff with a twist.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:42 PM   #278
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Ah, sweet forgetfulness.

Hank - I'm concerned - will your insurance cover a trip to a cognitive neurologist? I think you should make an appointment.
right- weather balloons. i should have said a plausible reason-

worse news Sebastian's "get them porno" solution to the Islamists appears to be a non-starter:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...CA0D60C858.htm
  • Playboy's Indonesia offices attacked


    Hundreds of Muslim protesters have attacked the offices of the newly-published Indonesian edition of Playboy magazine.

    On Wednesday, about 300 activists from the Islamic Defenders' Front (FPI) rallied outside the building to demand that the local version of the magazine, which carries no nude photos, cease publication.

    They tore up copies of the magazine and threw stones at the building, shattering windows.

Protesters say Playboy is synonymous with pornography
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:43 PM   #279
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Personally, I blame Grover Cleveland. "Ma, Ma, where's my pa?" indeed.

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I believe you whiffed. The "Clinton's fault" thing was making fun of how Hank/Penske would spin this into bouncing off Bush- wasn't it? Burger?
Yeah, I think you're right. (And there is no shame in the occasional whiff. Hmmm. Perhaps I need a "Dave Kingman" sock) Hence my follow-up about missing Penske.

At any rate,

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And include a less-than-flattering picture of either Hillary or Ted.
a good writing coach could help you identify and eliminate un-necessary words in your prose style.
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worse news Sbastian's "get them porno" solution to the Islamists appears to be a non-starter:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...CA0D60C858.htm
  • Playboy's Indonesia offices attacked


    Hundreds of Muslim protesters have attacked the offices of the newly-published Indonesian edition of Playboy magazine.

    On Wednesday, about 300 activists from the Islamic Defenders' Front (FPI) rallied outside the building to demand that the local version of the magazine, which carries no nude photos, cease publication.

    They tore up copies of the magazine and threw stones at the building, shattering windows.
Who was it who said, "“Freedom’s untidy. Free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things. " ?
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:50 PM   #282
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a good writing coach could help you identify and eliminate un-necessary words in your prose style.
Know any? Please send her contact info. Also, I need her to be 21-25, and Swedish. My current coach and I aren't getting along as well as we used to.

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Old 04-12-2006, 02:57 PM   #283
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The trailers were cited prewar as evidence of a WMD program- they were believed to be part of the WMD program and were offered as such. You now have a story saying "once we had possesion of the trailers it turns out they weren't."

Okay- but they did exist- they weren't imaginary. Our intelligence on their function was wrong.
No, our intelligence on them was correct -- there were serious doubts that they had anything to do with WMD. The Admin just chose to supress that intelligence in order to portray these, falsely and dishonestly, as conclusive evidence of WMD.



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As to bush mentioning them as proof 2 days after some report was written let me ask you, have you ever worked in government? do you have any idea was filing a report means in governement. what is the lag time between such a report and it being reviewed and funneled to the President?

When an associate does a memo for you, do you always review it that very day?
No. But generally I make sure to read the memo before starting any wars.

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Old 04-12-2006, 03:19 PM   #284
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learn to live with it- France has the bomb and it's only about 50 years away from all-Sharia all-the-time.
Two words: French engineering.

We are not scared by the country which gave us the Peugeot.
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Two words: French engineering.

We are not scared by the country which gave us the Peugeot.
Plus, they call their nuclear program the "force de frappe" -- who's afraid of a milkshake?
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