Waiting for Fitzgerald

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Originally posted by baltassoc
To be fair, most women who died from illegal and/or self induced abortions didn't actually die in the alleys themselves, but rather usually endured three or four days of excrutiating and building pain before finally dying. So this is a bit of an exageration.

They should have been more responsible in their initial behaviour and then in caring for their health. But of course in a liberal world there is no personal responsibility, everyone is a victim.

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Originally posted by bilmore
I didn't understand that that was your exact quote. I assumed you were paraphrasing. If those were your exact words, then, no, I'm at a loss.

There is no objective record of the exact words. they got censoured.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by bilmore
you didn't used to be stupid. What happened? No, the original snark was, isn't it funny/ironic/disgusting that the D's can now have the nerve to complain about low troop levels.

Uh huh. You'll note that I was far from the only one who had a different take on this, and I'll also note that you took several posts down the primrose path defending that take until you decided that it was, as you put it, no longer profitable.

That said, sure, we'll move on.

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Originally posted by bilmore
you didn't used to be stupid. What happened?

The long term toxic affects of the kool-aid. Have you ever seen Fahrenheit 911? Imagine what happens to your mind when you run that on an endless internal mental replay loop day in and day out.......

Scary, huh?

[Spanky]

Originally posted by bilmore
No, but personally very satisfying.

I have a friend that makes bumper stickers with that motto. He also makes bumper stickers that say "Socialism Sucks: Vote Republican".

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Originally posted by Spanky
"Socialism Sucks: Vote Republican".

New Board Motto!

[Spanky]

I would like to point out that almost all the titles used for the last six pages of posts were created by me (Not fiar, inalieable rights.....). Do I get something for that?

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Originally posted by Spanky
I would like to point out that almost all the titles used for the last six pages of posts were created by me (Not fiar, inalieable rights.....). Do I get something for that?

You get to make the definitive position statement on any one political topic and all of the other members have to assent to and subordinate their own views on the same said position.

go for it!

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Gattigap
That said, sure, we'll move on.

That's it? That's the only way you can fool yourself on a small politics bulletin board? "Now that we've proven that 2+2=5, we'll just move on. Yay, me!"?

[taxwonk]

Originally posted by Spanky
Then you are not going to like this arrogant pontification.

I don't think the relevent question is whether or not they support the occupation.

My guess is almost all the Iraqi's don't like the occupation. Who would? But my guess is that the overwhelming majority prefer the occupation over Saddams Regime.

I also believe the overwhelming majority of Iraqis are glad Saddam was taken out, and want some sort of democracy and at least some civil rights.

I think many of the Iraqis hold the mistkan belief that things would be OK if the occupation forces moved out, but I think most of us know things would get much worse and the Iraqi's that hoped for a quick US exit would have buyers remorse.

I think the US should exit as soon as we get the Iraqis trained and have a government in place with a constitution. As W. says, I think it would be irresponsible for us to leave until that is the situation.

It was the right thing to go in and take out Saddam. The Iraqis are better off because of it. And we are morally obligated to stay in until a constitution is agreed upon, and enough troops are trained to protect that constitution.

Seems pretty simple and straightforward to me. But as people have said, I am a simpleton.

Actually, I agree with almost everything you said in that post. There is one thing I disagree with, but no matter.

[bilmore]

Originally posted by Spanky
Do I get something for that?

Yes, but as it involves bending way over, most people let it pass without mention. It's a dubious honor, to be sure.

[Gattigap]

Originally posted by bilmore
That's it? That's the only way you can fool yourself on a small politics bulletin board? "Now that we've proven that 2+2=5, we'll just move on. Yay, me!"?

I'm sorry. I thought you were saying that you were tired of this line of conversation.

If you're not, though, I'm glad to revisit the ways in which you defended, then retreated from the notion that Bush sent 200k fewer troops than his generals told him he needed because of that mean ol' Moore/Soros/Boxer/Kennedy liberal axis.

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Originally posted by bilmore
That's it? That's the only way you can fool yourself on a small politics bulletin board? "Now that we've proven that 2+2=5, we'll just move on. Yay, me!"?

Billmoor, Let me digress with an apt anecdote, in my role as an educator of youth I recently had the chance to observe some cutting edge techniques in early elementary education. One of the things that struck me was that no matter how many times some of the slower children of the left wanted to calculate 2 + 2 as equaling 5 (or 1 or 3), the teacher circled them back to the correct summation. He explained to me that sometimes it takes months or years for these basic concepts to take hold, but caring compassionate teachers must maintain the committment, for the future of our country.

Stay the course Billmour, stay the course, there is hope for these fellows, ever feignt that hope may seem.

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Originally posted by bilmore
That's it? That's the only way you can fool yourself on a small politics bulletin board? "Now that we've proven that 2+2=5, we'll just move on. Yay, me!"?

"Come back - I'll bite yer leg off, I will!"

[Spanky]

Originally posted by taxwonk
Actually, I agree with almost everything you said in that post. There is one thing I disagree with, but no matter.

So where did the Bush administration screw up?

Was it in going to war?

Going to war was OK, but how the war (or occupation) was executed?