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Old 03-05-2004, 11:37 AM   #2911
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AP POLL: NADER AT 6 %
Nadar has his following, no doubt. My prediction is that Nadar's followers will indicate their support for him early on but then wake up to the fact that they hate GWB more than they love Ralph as the election nears. It is easy to state your support for a third party candidate in a poll this far in advance of an election. It is another thing to cast your vote for a third party candidate in the election.
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Old 03-05-2004, 11:41 AM   #2912
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Attention Ashcroft Haters

Those of you who wish him dead may get your wishes granted:

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAW4YWCGRD.html
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Old 03-05-2004, 11:44 AM   #2913
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But its Wrong to Question his Foreign Policy

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[N. Korea's take on the race]
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Old 03-05-2004, 11:45 AM   #2914
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Shiites Refuse to Sign Iraq's Interim Constitution

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Too bad that Turkey is so opposed to establishing a separate country for the Kurds. That would be an ideal solution.
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Old 03-05-2004, 11:52 AM   #2915
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Dictators of the world rejoice at the idea of a Dem president. It means they can continue on in their rape and pillage of their masses without fear of reprisals.
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Old 03-05-2004, 11:55 AM   #2916
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Dictators of the world rejoice at the idea of a Dem president. It means they can continue on in their rape and pillage of their masses without fear of reprisals.
But, to their credit, Dem presidents send much more literate and politically correct stern notes of protest.
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Old 03-05-2004, 11:56 AM   #2917
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Roe V. Wade Was Almost Overturned

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WASHINGTON (AP) - As lawyers and court watchers have long suspected, the Supreme Court was ready to effectively overturn the landmark Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion in 1992, but Justice Anthony M. Kennedy got cold feet, and the vote went the other way.

Internal notes in the papers of late Justice Harry A. Blackmun reveal the secretive dealings that led to the court's ruling in Planned Parenthood v. Casey that year.

Blackmun's extensive records from 24 years on the court would be open to the public March 4.

Details of the archives were first reported by NPR, which got advance access.

Blackmun's notes show that Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist led a five-justice majority to overrule Roe. Four other justices voting with Rehnquist were Byron White, Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Kennedy. Rehnquist himself was to write the majority opinion.

Unbeknownst to him, Kennedy was having second thoughts, and agreed with Justices Sandra Day O'Connor and David Souter, to a compromise position.

The Casey ruling carved out a middle ground that upheld a woman's right to abortion largely free from state regulation.

The case was argued in April and Rehnquist was at work on his majority ruling, when Kennedy sent a note to Blackmun, NPR reported.

"I need to see you as soon as you have a few moments. I want to tell you about a new development in Planned Parenthood v. Casey. It should come as welcome news."

Blackmun picked up a pink memo pad and scribbled, "Roe Sound," The New York Times reported Thursday.

Blackmun had written the Roe ruling 18 years before, and had guarded it from previous attack from conservative justices.

Blackmun's paper legacy, filling more than 1,500 boxes, will be unsealed Thursday on the fifth anniversary of his death.
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Old 03-05-2004, 12:40 PM   #2918
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Stolen from some blog:

"it is only a matter of time until North Koreans for Kerry starts a blog. Any suggestions on their slogan?

UPDATE: Early entries are rolling in:

A vote for Kerry is a vote for Kim.

Vote for Kerry or we will kill you.

Vote Kerry. He'll fight the special interests that stand in our way.

It's no fluke, he'll share the nukes. Kerry in '04.

Kerry in 'o4. He won't ask. We won't tell.

Kerry, our beloved nominee for President of the American Criminal State.
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Old 03-05-2004, 01:12 PM   #2919
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"it is only a matter of time until North Koreans for Kerry starts a blog. Any suggestions on their slogan?

UPDATE: Early entries are rolling in:

A vote for Kerry is a vote for Kim.

Vote for Kerry or we will kill you.

Vote Kerry. He'll fight the special interests that stand in our way.

It's no fluke, he'll share the nukes. Kerry in '04.

Kerry in 'o4. He won't ask. We won't tell.

Kerry, our beloved nominee for President of the American Criminal State.
I think if Al had been Prez instead of GWB, post 9/11 Al would not have invaded Afghanistan. He would have tried some sort of diplomatic approach to get the Taliban out of Afghanistan. It would have, of course, failed and the US would have been perceived as weak on the Arab street. This would have emboldened the Arab/muslim terrorists and the risk of repeat terrorist attacks on US soil would have been much higher.

I wonder if Libya would have agreed to dismantle their nukes if Al Gore had been Prez?
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Old 03-05-2004, 01:22 PM   #2920
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Dictators of the world rejoice at the idea of a Dem president. It means they can continue on in their rape and pillage of their masses without fear of reprisals.
So, Ike, Nixon and RR were all really Democrats?

My Lord, we were even more dominant than I had thought! Oh, how the mighty have fallen! [F-ing Nader.]

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Old 03-05-2004, 01:27 PM   #2921
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[F-ing Nader.]
I think that, at 6%, he deserves to have the whole word, spelled out fully.

He's earned at least that.
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Old 03-05-2004, 01:33 PM   #2922
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So, Ike, Nixon and RR were all really Democrats?
Back in those days, both Dem and Rep adminstrations were guilty of actually supporting dictatorships. Can't blame that just on the Reps, though.
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"it is only a matter of time until North Koreans for Kerry starts a blog. Any suggestions on their slogan?

UPDATE: Early entries are rolling in:

A vote for Kerry is a vote for Kim.

Vote for Kerry or we will kill you.

Vote Kerry. He'll fight the special interests that stand in our way.

It's no fluke, he'll share the nukes. Kerry in '04.

Kerry in 'o4. He won't ask. We won't tell.

Kerry, our beloved nominee for President of the American Criminal State.
This blogger could be Josh's dream girl, in the mold of the Matalin/Carville union...

Do you guys have any problem with the NK article's assertion that the admin doesn't plan on moving forward with any talks on NK during the rest of this year? Seems like it's giving them a lot of leash to develop more bad stuff that Kerry will have to deal with once he's president.
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Old 03-05-2004, 02:44 PM   #2924
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Do you guys have any problem with the NK article's assertion that the admin doesn't plan on moving forward with any talks on NK during the rest of this year? Seems like it's giving them a lot of leash to develop more bad stuff that Kerry will have to deal with once he's president.
I would be leery of giving Kim even the illusion that he could attempt to pressure for concessions simply because of the upcoming election. ("Mr. Bush, give me everything I want, and I promise I'll endorse Kerry again!")
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Old 03-05-2004, 02:55 PM   #2925
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("Mr. Bush, give me everything I want, and I promise I'll endorse Kerry again!")
Good point!
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